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    The Frege-Geach problem

    I don't understand what is particularly problematic about it.

    * If it is wrong to tell lies, then it is wrong to get your little brother to lie.
    * It is wrong to tell lies.
    * Therefore, It is wrong to get your little brother to tell lies.

    Is said to be problematic, and I can see how it might be. But is the statement:

    If you consider it wrong to lie, then you also consider it wrong to get your brother to lie.
    You consider it wrong to lie.
    Therefore, you consider it wrong to get your brother to lie

    Also problematic? If so, how?
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    Not sure, but wouldn't it be a reflexion on the amount of coercion/influence required to be called responsible for someone else's actions?
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    • #3
      Though speaking in a purely bivalent logical perspective, the syllogism is flawless.
      In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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        • #5
          Re: The Frege-Geach problem

          Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
          I don't understand what is particularly problematic about it.

          * If it is wrong to tell lies, then it is wrong to get your little brother to lie.
          * It is wrong to tell lies.
          * Therefore, It is wrong to get your little brother to tell lies.

          Is said to be problematic, and I can see how it might be. But is the statement:

          If you consider it wrong to lie, then you also consider it wrong to get your brother to lie.
          You consider it wrong to lie.
          Therefore, you consider it wrong to get your brother to lie

          Also problematic? If so, how?
          1. Your brother has free will.
          2. Encouraging the exercise of free will is good.
          3. Choosing to tell a lie is an exercise of free will.
          4. Therefore, barring coercion, simply encouraging him to tell lies is not wrong, but is encouraging him to use his free will, and thus is good.

          It is the 'encouraging' that is the issue. Of course, 'coercion' can mean a lot of things, and as Boris states is the fine point in the logical dilemma ...
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar:
            The Frege-Geach problem

            I don't understand what is particularly problematic about it.

            * If it is wrong to tell lies, then it is wrong to get your little brother to lie.
            * It is wrong to tell lies.
            * Therefore, It is wrong to get your little brother to tell lies.

            Is said to be problematic, and I can see how it might be.
            So, who is this problematic for? And why?

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            • #7
              It is supposedly problematic for moral expressivism.

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