Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Jesus Camp is Terrorist Camp

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Jesus Camp is Terrorist Camp

    And the lady who leads it is the equivalent of OBL.

    I'm not kidding, I'm not even saying that they are alike. They are the _same_.

    I just finished watching the documentary and it made me sick. Literally, I felt nausea. It is like watching those terrorist documentaries, NOTHING was different. These people were a little bit better at this actually thing the AQ crew.

    I'm extremely interested in... let's say in the security field I'm currently in, I'm specializing in deception. This is the key area to me because it interests me. So this documentary is like a sick, sick reality shock for me. This is plain and simple the sickest stuff I've seen. I saw the trailer and thought wow this si sick, now that I've seen it, I say there is no difference between the ideology of the terrorists and this camp, they are the same, it's not just comparable, it's 1:1.

    Let me warn you about this now before it's too late. The techniques used are absolutely not what I've seen in Christian camps, I know we have atheists and active Jesus haters here, but do not make the mistake of lumping all camps and people into this group.. Because this group is by far more dangerous. You need watch groups to follow this movement right now or you will be sorry soon.

    So... the art of deception. I'm afraid to say techniques used were direct brainwashing. Yes, brainwashing. Nothing differs from what is textbook brainwashing and what happened in there. Studying behaviorism and other social psychology aspects.. I do it in the name of deception, learning about deception as used in the field..

    so what I saw in this, there can be no mistake. They believe in the teaching of B.F. Skinner, they are also higly putting a doctrine of obedience to these kids. Obedience not to God, but to the leaders of this movement.

    They are separating them out of anyone else, and only they know the real truth. The next step is obvious and let me make myself clear because your tax dollars are in action. The next step, perhaps in the next 10 years will be, that they claim us, the rest of the Christians who are not with them, their worst enemy. It is only one step then to justify violence against us. It WILL happen. Do not make a mistake about it. Because we oppress the real truth and we are their enemies, worst of them because we are suppsoedly Christians as well.

    So we will be the first target. The separation has begun already. It is anti-science, it is anti-everything.

    This movement is extremely dangerous, I knwo many will agree, but the extent that their potential goes is exactly the same as international terrorism. Except they have more money, so I would rank this at the same level or a bit higher than AQ. I'm dead serious.

    I would like to know what kind of action is taken against this horrible terrorist training camp by the US? Please, tell me there is something, because if there is none, we deserve to be destroyed for beint TOO ****ing stupid.
    In da butt.
    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

  • #2
    And I disagree with the notion that most of these kids will grow up and snap out of this. I disagree. They are being brainwashed. THose who snap out of it will get into lots of trouble. And those who won't, we'll be in trouble.

    Give us 10 or 20 years more and I would never want to be a politician, artist or public person. Because chances are, some of these ********* would come and snipe me.
    Last edited by Pekka; November 18, 2006, 20:31.
    In da butt.
    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

    Comment


    • #3
      wtf Christians?



      ...



      No, seriously Christians. What the ****?
      The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

      The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

      Comment


      • #4
        I thought it was well known that there were crazy christians, just like in every other major group?

        It is not like this is even a sizeable minority. I mean, most people havn't heard of my denomination, and we have several order of magnitude more people than those engaged in Jesus Camp.

        JM
        Jon Miller-
        I AM.CANADIAN
        GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

        Comment


        • #5
          No offense, but actually only Pekka makes sense - you are are a little difficult to understand DRoseDARs .
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

          Steven Weinberg

          Comment


          • #6
            @ JM - just what amout of crazy nuts do you consider the lowest before they may start blow up things ?
            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

            Steven Weinberg

            Comment


            • #7
              Crazies of all stripes blow things up/kill people/cause other problems. Look at Oklahoma bombings (wasn't even religion related there).

              The craziness being religion related doesn't make it worse than any other.

              Additionally, from what I had read about Jesus Camp before, they seemed to be nonviolent (and a bit crazy)? I didn't read OP as I no longer read pekka's rants.

              JM
              Jon Miller-
              I AM.CANADIAN
              GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

              Comment


              • #8
                Yes, go ahead and don't read my OPs and think Jesus Camp is non-violent in the future as well. Any army is non-violent before they join combat.
                In da butt.
                "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

                Comment


                • #9
                  I would prefer to read someone elses review of the documentary...

                  thanks!

                  JM
                  Jon Miller-
                  I AM.CANADIAN
                  GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Go ahead and do that. If you don't care about debating the issues in the OP, I simply miss the point why you are posting in this thread to begin with.
                    In da butt.
                    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      This hurts but I think that Pekka is right here. They may probably not have a plan that demands violence here and now, but the risk that it could end in violence is there.
                      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                      Steven Weinberg

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Did pekka post any facts? Or just rant and rave?

                        JM
                        Jon Miller-
                        I AM.CANADIAN
                        GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jon Miller
                          Did pekka post any facts?
                          JM
                          Of course he didn't - are you out of your mind ????

                          This isn't the first thread about this subject, and if I recall right I was pretty scared about it.
                          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                          Steven Weinberg

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Why don't you go see that documentary yourself, it's pretty interesting so I think it's worth it. I'm definitely not 'just ranting and raving'. That was the most disturbing thing for a long time for me.


                            BC, it will end up in violence, the question is how much violence. We will have individual loose cannons in the future when they are adults, and there will be blood in some of their hands for sure. The only thing we can hope is that the movement does not take a leading role of spreading violence as an acceptable form of conquering the country.

                            They already called themselves the army of God, the leader already said very clearly, that she thinks they should do the same as Palestinians. She was envious of them, sticking handgranades to them, learning to shoot rifles.. this is what she said herself. And she said we need our army too, because THEY know the truth and others are wrong. She said this directly.

                            It was indoctrinating to an idea, that they are an army.

                            THey asked several times would they be ready and willing to die for God, and they were all 'yeaaah' and cheering. And the kids were wondering that there are so many people, especiall yin ME, who do suicide attacks and die for their faithj adn they aren't even afraid. So that's kind of like their goal.

                            Go figure. The message was extremely clear for those who understand indoctrinating, behaviour modification and other things, where you mold people into something they aren't.
                            In da butt.
                            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              And I repeat my statement, it was not just a little radical camp, it was terrorist training camp. Very simply put, there was absolutely no difference between that and what other camps are doing. None what so ever.
                              In da butt.
                              "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                              THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                              "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X