Afghan Women Burning Themselves Alive

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Who the **** lights herself on fire simply to commit suicide?

Aren't there enough guns in Afghanistan that she could have simply found one of those and pulled the trigger?

Yep,
sounds like a very painful form of suicide.
A lot of painful minutes until your pain receptors of the skin are burned away so that you don´t feel anything anymore.

Shooting or poisoning yourself sounds like a much better way to go.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Aren't there enough guns in Afghanistan that she could have simply found one of those and pulled the trigger?

Hell. If were going to suggest finding a gun, why shoot herself when she could empty the clip into the bastard?

how is it that Fortunate did not notice that her own daughter had been circumcised for almost two years?

This is kind of a good question considering the implement alleged to have been used. I wonder how the prosecution dealt with it.

[Krill]

Personally wouldn't mind forced castration of any male taking part in an arranged marriage, and then giving them to the rapists in a jail for a few decades.

And anyone involved in mutilation of the genitals...now there is a group of people deserving of being burnt alive at the stack...

[Proteus_MST]

The other thing would be to perform a surgical procedure on these males which lets them retain their erectability, but doesn´t let them feel much pleasure during sex,
so that they are able to give pleasure to woman without getting much neurochemical gratification for themselves (i.e. the samething they do by mutilating the genitalia of young women).

As Erection can be archived without sexual aoursal (and you are able to perform sex without feeling anything by applying a local anesthetic onto the tip of your penis) this should theoretically be possible (for example by severing some of the nerves leading from the tip of the penis upwards to the brain )

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Krill

Personally wouldn't mind forced castration of any male taking part in an arranged marriage, and then giving them to the rapists in a jail for a few decades.

Correction. That should be "forced marriage".

Arranged marriage:
Forced marriage:

Originally posted by Krill

And anyone involved in mutilation of the genitals...now there is a group of people deserving of being burnt alive at the stack..

Agreed.

[Dinner]

Remember, if you speak out against this sort of stuff then some people will claim you are racist. FACT!

[Dinner]

The big difference is people should agree to marriage. It would be best if two people decide on their own but if one's family helps to find a spouse for you and both parties are agreeable then that is still ok. If both parties are not agreeable and the marriage is forced then it is not ok.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Oerdin
The big difference is people should agree to marriage. It would be best if two people decide on their own but if one's family helps to find a spouse for you and both parties are agreeable then that is still ok. If both parties are not agreeable and the marriage is forced then it is not ok.

That's what I mean when I say

Arranged marriage: .

Some working people, extremely busy in their work and career, decide that finding a mate is too much hassle, and that they'd be happy with someone from the same socio-economo-cultoro-religious background, and tell their parents to fix them up. That's what arranged marriage means among the educated, at least.

It is interesting that in a Hindu law-book written in the BC years, it is said that if a father does not find his daughter a husband till she is sixteen, she has a right to go out and search out a man for herself. It states that there are eight types of marriage, and two lovers deciding that they want to marry is one of them. In any marriage, the consent of both parties was required. It seems that we have regressed since that time. And that is a real shame - imagine living in a country where the social customs of the BC years were better than the current ones.

This freedom - to find a man for yourself if your father does not find one for you in time, or if you are dissatisfied with what he finds (the father signifying the parents and family) - is unfortunately denied to many women in India today, due to blindly conservative attitudes on the parts of their parents (conservative not as in the political ideology, but as in the literal meaning of the term). Lot of parents decree that the girl must marry the man they choose. Even though the marriages usually work out (the two people are, after all, from almost identical backgrounds), and even though the girl is brought up from the beginning to accept that she will be married off at the appropriate age, due to which the trauma involved is much less, that is still no justification for this sort of crap.

I know a brilliant girl in my college who tells me that she has to fight her family to pursue her further education, and that her family want to marry her off. I am saddened by her tale.

[Gatekeeper]

Originally posted by Proteus_MST
The other thing would be to perform a surgical procedure on these males which lets them retain their erectability, but doesn´t let them feel much pleasure during sex,
so that they are able to give pleasure to woman without getting much neurochemical gratification for themselves (i.e. the samething they do by mutilating the genitalia of young women).

As Erection can be archived without sexual aoursal (and you are able to perform sex without feeling anything by applying a local anesthetic onto the tip of your penis) this should theoretically be possible (for example by severing some of the nerves leading from the tip of the penis upwards to the brain )

Ooooohhhh ... now that sounds exquisitely cruel.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by aneeshm
Correction. That should be "forced marriage".

Arranged marriage:
Forced marriage:

aneeshm wants an exemption for the 500 million Indian rapists

[LordShiva]

[Q Classic]

So, does this mean we won in Afghanistan, or that if we stay the course in Afghanistan, we'll turn a corner re: women's rights?

[Gatekeeper]

I'm still wondering what happened to the Marshall Plan for Afghanistan. Of course, it's kind of a futile effort until there's enough boots on the ground to actually hold the land. Perhaps the incoming secretary of defense (Robert Gates) will turn some attention back to Afghanistan.

Gatekeeper

[Arrian]

Is there any decent-sized portion of Afgan society that would support our western liberalizing mission (re: women's rights), though? What local allies do we really have in that fight?

-Arrian

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Arrian
Is there any decent-sized portion of Afgan society that would support our western liberalizing mission (re: women's rights), though? What local allies do we really have in that fight?

-Arrian

I suppose it depends on how you define the mission. If its establishing full legal equality, no plural marriage, equal inheritance rights, Id think youd be limited among the men to mainly some commies and ex-commies in Kabul. Maybe a little more broadly among the women. If its about simply sending girls to school, the support would seem to be wider. At least one constiuency elected a woman to parliament.