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    I was just handed this information at the daily briefing.
    No questions right now.
    I need to meet with Winston and Hueij who are our representatives on-site.

    Cabinet says curb sought on security grounds; Netherlands has 1M Muslims

    BREAKING NEWS

    Updated: 49 minutes ago

    THE HAGUE, Netherlands - The Dutch government, facing re-election, said Friday it plans to draw up legislation "as soon as possible" banning burqas and other clothing that covers a person's entire face in public places.

    "The Cabinet finds it undesirable that face-covering clothing — including the burqa — is worn in public places for reasons of public order, security and protection of citizens," Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk said in a statement.

    Basing the order on security concerns apparently was intended to respond to warnings that outlawing clothing like the burqa, worn by some Muslim women, could violate the constitutional guarantee against religious discrimination.

    In the past, a majority of the Dutch parliament has said it would approve a ban on burqas, but opinion polls in advance of national elections next Wednesday suggested a shift to the left, and it is unclear if a majority in the new parliament would still back the ban.

    Once the Cabinet drafts a bill, it is sent to the 150-member legislature for enactment.

    The main Dutch Muslim organization CMO has been critical of any possible ban. The idea was "an overreaction to a very marginal problem" because hardly any Dutch women wear burqas anyway, said Ayhan Tonca of the CMO. "It's just ridiculous."

    Around 1 million Muslims live in the Netherlands, about 6 percent of the 16 million population, but only a few hundred are believed to regularly wear a burqa.

    After France banned the wearing of headscarves in public schools, the Dutch government decided to leave that question up to individual schools. Most allow headscarves.

    The city of Utrecht has cut some welfare benefits to unemployed women who insist on wearing burqas to job interviews. The city claimed the women were using the burqa to avoid working, since they knew they wouldn't be hired.
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    about time
    I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

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    • #3
      Yup
      Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
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      • #4
        Heh... election time.

        BTW, Winston is from Denmark
        Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
        And notifying the next of kin
        Once again...

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        • #5
          I know, but you're working the area as a team.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #6
            This is an excellent move for both public order (if a criminal robs a bank dressed in a burka it would be hard to identify him/her) and from the stand point of womens' rights. Most of these women wear burkas because the men in their lives will kill them or beat them if they don't. Sure, there are some uncle tom's who are complicit in their own oppression but the majority of women need help to stop this vile practice.
            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Oerdin
              This is an excellent move for both public order (if a criminal robs a bank dressed in a burka it would be hard to identify him/her) and from the stand point of womens' rights. Most of these women wear burkas because the men in their lives will kill them or beat them if they don't. Sure, there are some uncle tom's who are complicit in their own oppression but the majority of women need help to stop this vile practice.
              Well, since the beginning of the Mediterranian influx in the late '60s I have never ever seen a burka in the wild so I think our politicians are seeing problems that don't exist. But, like I said, it is election time...
              Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
              And notifying the next of kin
              Once again...

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              • #8
                Dutch racism
                Unbelievable!

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                • #9
                  They should go further and ban the head scarves as well as France has.
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #10
                    I have mixed feelings. There are some advantages, but... It's a matter of personal freedom, and if You don't allow them to go out in their burkas - they will simply spend all their lifes at home.
                    They must go to school, on other hand. hm.
                    I have a thought that after 100 years, someone bans any cover of breasts... But, on the other hand, face is just too basic to cover it...
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                    I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
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                    • #11
                      Darius,
                      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Oerdin
                        They should go further and ban the head scarves as well as France has.
                        What's next, closing mosks and banning moustaches? Maybe close their shops too because they are selling all this strange stuff?

                        OTOH, I'm all for banning those non-Dutch baseball caps kids seem to love
                        Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                        And notifying the next of kin
                        Once again...

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                        • #13
                          why did it take them so long to finally do this?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hueij
                            Well, since the beginning of the Mediterranian influx in the late '60s I have never ever seen a burka in the wild so I think our politicians are seeing problems that don't exist. But, like I said, it is election time...
                            In addition to that, when do you hear of people wearing burqas causing problems? I'm sure it is very, very rare if it does happen.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Oerdin
                              This is an excellent move for both public order (if a criminal robs a bank dressed in a burka it would be hard to identify him/her) and from the stand point of womens' rights. Most of these women wear burkas because the men in their lives will kill them or beat them if they don't. Sure, there are some uncle tom's who are complicit in their own oppression but the majority of women need help to stop this vile practice.
                              BS. Women's rights are not the issue here. Women in the netherlands are completely free and thousands choose not to wear any head covering. Some (many) choose to do so. That's their RIGHT TO CHOOSE. The day the government starts saying "Oh, you don't want to wear that, it's oppressing you" is the day the government IS oppressing you.
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