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  • Democrats defy Pelosi, elect Hoyer House leader

    Nothing like solidarity.

    By Thomas Ferraro and Richard Cowan
    2 hours, 28 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A week after winning back control of the U.S. Congress, Democrats in the House defied incoming speaker Nancy Pelosi on Thursday and bypassed a vocal
    Iraq war critic to elevate her moderate deputy to majority leader.

    It marked an embarrassing first defeat for Pelosi, a California liberal who had endorsed Rep. John Murtha (news, bio, voting record) of Pennsylvania, a key player in the anti-war effort that helped Democrats sweep to power in the House of Representatives and the Senate.

    The secret vote behind closed doors was 149-86.

    Democrats embraced Hoyer, a Maryland moderate who has been Pelosi's deputy while she served the past three years as minority leader. The two have had a somewhat strained relationship.

    Pelosi, as expected, was officially nominated to be the first woman speaker of the House. A vote by the full House will be held when the 110th Congress convenes in January.

    Shortly before the election several Democrats said Murtha had denounced a package of lobby and ethics reforms designed to clean up how the scandal-rocked Congress does business, another key issue in the 2006 elections. He said he was not referring to the Pelosi-backed package.

    Pelosi endorsed Murtha on Sunday, ending her neutrality in the contest and getting behind the man who managed her successful 2001 campaign for House minority whip. She defeated Hoyer.

    Rep. Barney Frank (news, bio, voting record), a Massachusetts Democrat, predicted there would no lasting fallout from the leadership battle.

    "A lot of people wished this hadn't happened," Frank said. "There's a sense that we had a little stumble ... (but) I think it will disappear."

    Rep. Albert Wynn (news, bio, voting record), a Maryland Democrat, said the battle will fade away and "people will focus" on the party's agenda, which includes pushing for a phased withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, raising the federal minimum wage for the first time in a decade, expanding health care and upgrading education.
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    Welcome back!

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    • #3
      Thank you.
      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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      • #4
        Admiral beat you to it. Heck even Oerdin chimed in 16 posts later beating you to it.


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        "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

        “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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        • #5
          That doesn't fully count. This is related, but could stand on it's own separate from that thread.
          The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

          The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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          • #6
            Well hell yes it can stand alone.

            I'm proud of the Democrats. They made it a whole week before imploding.
            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DRoseDARs
              That doesn't fully count. This is related, but could stand on it's own separate from that thread.
              Carry on. Far be it for me to dissuade people from talking about Murtha and Pelosi! Or even how Hoyer is marginally less corrupt than Murtha.
              "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

              “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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              • #8
                Or Martha.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SlowwHand
                  Well hell yes it can stand alone.

                  I'm proud of the Democrats. They made it a whole week before imploding.
                  electing their longstanding minority whip, a distinguished congressman, as majority leader is imploding?
                  "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                  • #10
                    Did you read the article at all? I don't expect you did, so it's kind of a rhetorical question.
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SlowwHand
                      Did you read the article at all? I don't expect you did, so it's kind of a rhetorical question.

                      "Rep. Barney Frank (news, bio, voting record), a Massachusetts Democrat, predicted there would no lasting fallout from the leadership battle.

                      "A lot of people wished this hadn't happened," Frank said. "There's a sense that we had a little stumble ... (but) I think it will disappear."

                      Rep. Albert Wynn (news, bio, voting record), a Maryland Democrat, said the battle will fade away and "people will focus" on the party's agenda, which includes pushing for a phased withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, raising the federal minimum wage for the first time in a decade, expanding health care and upgrading education."
                      "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                      • #12
                        Ok. Just wanted to make sure. So that means you saw this?
                        It marked an embarrassing first defeat for Pelosi
                        The rest is kind of what they call "spin control".
                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • #13
                          Why Slow? All Pelosi did was recommend her friend for the spot. She didn't campaign for him, she didn't go office to office extolling his virtues. She did nothing except say she likes Murtha. Hardly an embarassment for Pelosi.
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • #14
                            You're not just arguing with me. You're arguing with the party as they were quoted.

                            "We'll recover."
                            "Things will get better."
                            "Yeah, we look like dumbasses."
                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                            • #15
                              You were MCUKED sloww. I beat you to it and posted it in the thread where we've been talking about this for days.



                              Your copy cat thread may now be locked.
                              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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