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  • Hamas PM: Finding it tough to govern

    ...what with being a terrorist organization and all. It's interesting to watch Hamas trying to reconcile the needs of governing with the need to remain an effective terrorist pressure organization. Looks like Hamas may rather not govern, after all.

    Palestinian PM Offers to Resign for Aid

    By IBRAHIM BARZAK
    The Associated Press
    Friday, November 10, 2006; 9:14 AM

    GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip -- Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh said Friday he would step down as Palestinian prime minister if that would persuade the West to lift debilitating economic sanctions.

    "When the issue of the siege is on one side, and my being prime minister is on the other, let the siege be lifted to end the suffering of the Palestinian people," he said, referring to the international aid boycott that has devastated the Palestinian economy.

    His offer appeared to be another indication that the Islamic militant group and the rival Fatah Party of President Mahmoud Abbas were inching closer to a national unity government made up of independent experts _ a coalition that presumably would present a more moderate face to the world.

    Haniyeh, a longtime Hamas leader, told worshippers at a Gaza mosque that Western countries wanted him out of government.

    The West and Israel have withheld hundreds of millions of dollars in aid and tax revenues since Hamas took power in March in an effort to pressure the ruling group to moderate its violently anti-Israel ideology.

    The sanctions have prevented Hamas from paying a large portion of the salaries owed to 165,000 government employees, causing widespread hardship in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

    The international community, including the United States, has said it will not lift sanctions unless Hamas recognizes Israel, renounces violence and accepts past peace deals, something Hamas has so far refused to do.

    The program of the proposed new unity government is vague on the key issue of recognizing Israel, calling for a Palestinian state on only the lands captured by Israel in the 1967 Mideast War.

    On Thursday, Abbas spoke by phone to his main political rival, Hamas' supreme leader Khaled Mashaal _ their first conversation in months. Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum said their discussion was proof that the two are in agreement on the shape of the new government.

    However, weeks of up-and-down negotiations have failed to yield results, and a fresh breakdown in talks appeared possible.

    The death toll from Israel's artillery barrage in the northern Gaza Strip town of Beit Hanoun rose to 19 on Friday after Israeli hospital officials confirmed that one of the wounded transferred to Israel, Bassem Kafarna, had died in Tel Aviv's Ichilov hospital.

    The shells landed Wednesday as residents were sleeping. It was the highest Palestinian civilian toll in a single incident since the current conflict erupted in September 2000. The highest toll of Israeli civilians was 29 killed in a Palestinian suicide bombing at a Passover gathering in March 2002.

    The army said it was targeting areas where rockets had been fired in recent days at the Israeli cities. It said an investigation indicated the casualties were caused by a technical failure in the fire control system of an artillery battery.

    In an interview with NBC's "Today" show on Friday, Olmert, who is traveling to Washington next week, defended himself against critics who said Israel was using too much force against the Palestinians.

    "We are very, very restrained in using power," he said. "When someone criticizes us, I say what would you do when rockets fall on the heads of innocent Israelis?"

    Defense Minister Amir Peretz has ordered the military to "re-evaluate its policy of artillery fire in Gaza," his ministry said in a statement.
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    I certainly hope the next government will bring a semblance of governance and efficiency in Palestine.

    Considering how sucky the Israeli government is, it would be good to have some skilled administrators somewhere in this whole mess. Since the Israelis seem eager to vote for suckers these days, the Palestinians have to take up the slack.
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    • #3
      Why doesn't the US/Israel/Europe just install the next government for them?
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      • #4
        Europe doesn't have the balls for that.
        The US has its hands tied 1000 km away.
        Israel is so heavily hated, that any Israeli-backed government in Palestine would be ovethrown, even if it was absolutely perfect.
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        • #5
          If Europe doesn't want us policing the world it should pick up some of the slack

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          • #6
            Tass, easy answer.

            US does not want to go there, at least not now. If it did, it would be seen as supporting the Israel in more terms than now. It could be seen as .. fighting against muslims rather than a country. There is no validation for US to go in right now, even lass than in Iraq. Iraq at least did have Saddam, so that's always something even if we don't agree always that it was enough, but it was something.

            Palestine don't have that. So it could stir up some bad blood in many muslim countries, I just don't see how it would be feasible.

            Europe won't do it because Europe believes in playing all bases, that is playing ball with Israel as well as Palestine. They don't want to take a strong stand. Oh, and they can't be commited in that region for too long, they could initially take over easily, but in case of insurgency and what not, it would become extremely unpopular too soon. We also don't want to think about the possible heated situation with our immigrants, there are large groups of muslim immigrants in Europe, in the millions. We'd effectively put ourselves in terrorism within our own region, something I don't think we coudl be able to handle without some damage plus LOTS of restrictions on our own freedom.

            Israel is not doing it more directly because again, they also want to play ball with the US and Europe. They are pretty isolated in that area, but becoming 100% isolated in the world stage would be a suicide, at least economically.

            Or then they are just waiting the status quo to change, they can defend against these terrorist attacks for now, so there might be change to better.

            One thing is for sure, if there was will and need to control Palestine, it would mean taking it over and again, for a long period, with masses of troops, and prepare for new wave of terrorism, new generation of terrorists as well as taking the heat for a decade or two from normal people who just don't like invaders coming in. It would be too expensive. And who knows how the game would change after that.. too much variables. We can't control it.

            Maybe we are waiting for Hamas to suicide itself. DOing something so stupid and big, that Israel has to go after as in destroy it, destroy it good. And if that event would be big enough, Europe and US would not say a thing. They'd ***** about it, to look good in the UN, but they wouldn't actually do anything to prevent it, as in embargos... I don't see neither actually preventing it with force anyway.

            In general, this battle will be done between Israel and Palestine.
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