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  • Originally posted by Serb

    Just try to post something that humilates Christ or Mohammed in Russian paper and you'll find your arse in trouble.
    And thus the thread title is proven true. Thanks, Serb



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    • Any time. And by the way, no sex in USSR, as well.

      The problem is what the "Russians" means. The Russian Federation is the native land for over a 150 nationalities, iirc.
      In your language you have no distinction between an ethnic Russian and a citizen of Russia of any nationality. How would you call f.e. an ethnic Tartar who is the citizen of Russia and who doesn't have any other Motherland except Russia, 'cause the Tartarstan is located deep within Russia? Russo-Tartar? Tartar Russian? Such word-combination sounds silly in Russian and never used.
      Different ethnic and religious groups often find certain things funny, but at the same time, those things can be very insulting for other people. You can't post cartoons, articles in papers or show movies in theaters, etc., that insult other people's faith or ethnicity.
      And it's not about a sense of humor, but about respect and morality (replace it with "tolerance" if you wish).
      Russia is not Denmark. If such things were allowed here it would resaulted in constant circles of violence and desintegration of the country in the long term.

      p.s. I've not seen this movie only a short episodes of it, but imho such movie cannot have any commercial success in Russia, anyway. Any existing funny moments will be lost in translation.

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      • Probably (lost in translation). I don't intend to see it, personally. As far as I can tell, it's not at all my style. "Jackass for college grads" doesn't appeal to me.

        -Arrian
        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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        • Originally posted by Elok
          I believe it was more along the lines of, "we've got a hole to fill, and we've got to fill it fast. This guy needs a favor, we'll go with him." I agree that she should have done more research; what baffles me is the way that this incident is not perceived to reflect badly on SBC at all. The fact that her vigilance failed does not change the fact that he was actively trying to screw with somebody else's work for a cheap laugh. He has built quite a career out of doing it, in fact.
          sorry, when your job is to be a fact-checker and you fail to check facts than I put the blame on you. Was SBC an *******? Yeah, but James Randi has been known to be one from time to time too.

          Look at the Nigerian '419' scammers, or the Church of Scientology. Their victims typically commit much more foolish mistakes than failing to do some homework. Actively giving large sums of money to a purported banker from another country when you have no legal recourse should he cheat you is breathtakingly stupid. So is joining a church that says psychiatrists are responsible for 9/11 and the Holocaust, and charges extravagant amounts of 'mandatory donations' for very simple services. But no matter how stupid the con is, you've got to have blinkers on to assign no blame at all to the artist.
          I don't assign "no blame" to the con artist. I am assigning the vast majority, one would say 99%, on a woman who worked for a news organization and didn't take 10 minutes to call the Kazakh Embassy and do a check! (as you think that typing the guys name would be an ineffective starting point).
          Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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          • James Randi catches a lot of fraud psychics and such, and acts in the best interests of humanity (at least, according to his way of thinking). SBC just makes a living off being a nutsack. "Jackass for college grads" about sums it up. Or can you think of a particularly valuable service he rendered to society in disrupting a local newscast with his muggings? Aside from providing an outlet for his fans to sublimate their desire to laugh at the darkies under the guise of some high minded "social satire" BS?
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            • Originally posted by Elok
              James Randi catches a lot of fraud psychics and such, and acts in the best interests of humanity (at least, according to his way of thinking). SBC just makes a living off being a nutsack. "Jackass for college grads" about sums it up. Or can you think of a particularly valuable service he rendered to society in disrupting a local newscast with his muggings? Aside from providing an outlet for his fans to sublimate their desire to laugh at the darkies under the guise of some high minded "social satire" BS?
              I must have missed the laughing at the Darkies bit. I Believe it was wedged in between the racist Rodeo manager and the part where they found out the Bed and Breakfast was run by the Jews.
              Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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              • Originally posted by Serb


                There is no censorship in Russia.
                Originally posted by Serb

                Just try to post something that humilates Christ or Mohammed in Russian paper and you'll find your arse in trouble.
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                • Originally posted by Elok
                  Or can you think of a particularly valuable service he rendered to society
                  Movie theatres around the world have been sold out for several weeks now. Each one would have had several hundred people in splits. So that's many many thousand people, each deriving a little benefit thanks to SBC.
                  THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                  AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                  AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                  DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                  • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                    Maybe they just don't find him funny?

                    I think he's funny.











                    Not.
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                    • Originally posted by DaShi

                      There is no contradiction between those two statements.

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                      • Originally posted by LordShiva
                        Movie theatres around the world have been sold out for several weeks now. Each one would have had several hundred people in splits. So that's many many thousand people, each deriving a little benefit thanks to SBC.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • Originally posted by Elok
                          .. can you think of a particularly valuable service he rendered to society in disrupting a local newscast with his muggings?...
                          He demonstrated how terribly unprofessional they were. A news source that doesn't do basic fact checking should not be trusted.
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                          • Originally posted by Serb


                            There is no contradiction between those two statements.
                            You wouldn't see it.
                            Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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