Soldiers say Iraq pullout would be devastating

[Straybow]

If Kennedy had realized the Frogs weren't going to cooperate much anyway he might've told them to stuff it.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


No, there isn't. Nations "honor their word" when it is convenient to their intended policies to do so. Smart nations do not honor their word when it is detrimental to their policies to do so. Read your Macchiavelli.

How did it further American policy to pull the rug out from under the South when the North renewed hostilities?

Some decisions are just pure stupid, and have nothing at all to do with anything Macchiavelli would have endorsed.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by notyoueither


How did it further American policy to pull the rug out from under the South when the North renewed hostilities?

Some decisions are just pure stupid, and have nothing at all to do with anything Macchiavelli would have endorsed.

We didn't "pull the rug out" - the RVN government had never managed to get its **** together no matter how much aid they'd been given. Same thing with the ARVN - a totally ineffective force, heavily infiltrated, troops (rightfully) totally lacking confidence in their officers, and ready to melt on sight like an ice cream cone dropped on Le Loi Boulevard.

The question is having pissed away all those years, lives, and money, why would we have ever wasted anything more propping up the rotting corpse that was the RVN/ARVN?

[notyoueither]

To kill more commies, silly.

And all it would have cost was some bullets and some fuel.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by notyoueither
To kill more commies, silly.

And all it would have cost was some bullets and some fuel.

Unimportant commies, in the grand scheme of things. It's not like they were running short on them, or couldn't breed them faster than we could kill them. And we'd already spent lots of money and bullets on killing commies. Didn't seem to slow them down much, except after Tet, but that was a calculated move on their part.

[notyoueither]

Calculated to gut the American national will to fight.

Congrats. You fell for it. You wouldn't even pay other people to die there. They won.

[Alexander's Horse]

that looks suspiciously like a planted story - another swiftboat

[notyoueither]

By the Washington Post?

[Alexander's Horse]

yes the paper is reputable but the story has a bit of a smell about it, its too pat, and the timing, well...