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    The Apostate

    (Night. In front of a tent. Persian desert.)

    Pass me a cup of wine, Procopius.
    The wound hurts less now.
    I have never seen so many stars in the sky.
    Home stars from Gaul and from over Rome,
    How hostile do they shine today over the desert.
    Stay with me. I would like to breathe once again
    With the cold of the night. I always feared
    The limitless desert sands, but now
    The irrational fear has gone away. There's no place
    For imaginary fears
    When I'm filled to the bottom of my heart
    With certainty of implacable, near death.
    Everyday worries, tiny anxieties
    Are as jackals, vultures and hienas
    Which scared away, are escaping in panic
    When a lion approaches its victim.
    They say that a human before he dies
    Sees history of his life in desperate shortening.
    What sights my memory brings back to me?
    I don't see face of uncle Constantius,
    But how closely and how greviously do I see
    Childish bodies of murdered brothers
    White, as if all the blood had sank
    Into darkly stained bed-clothes.
    I was saved when me and Gallus
    were hidden by the faithful slave behind a curtain.
    I see whiteness again. Whiteness of high marble stairs
    Of the house where bishop of Aretuza gave us safe shelter;
    It was Him who first educated me in christianity,
    Taught me humility and praised poverty,
    Willingly accepting on bishop court
    Copious tribute ordered by law;
    Sheep, oil, grain, lax and wine,
    Carried by loady ships,
    Rich products of unnamed lands,
    Winter roses and spring snows.
    Poverty! I know it from churches of Antioch,
    From golden basilicas of Constantinople.
    It was him who approved of Wallentrojans' slaughter,
    Death of Aremus and duke of Egypt,
    Whipped to death by eunuchs.
    Sinless murders, because in confessional
    Brigand gave absolution to the murderer,
    Always found some dark line of text
    Which gave right of higher type
    To the crime comitted for revenge or greed.
    He ordered to love your own enemies.
    Love enemies? How to love them?
    What will be left for friends?
    Perhaps hate? Is this the worth of feelings?
    Even as a child I had it commanded
    To pray to crippleness and uglyness,
    When on socles of overthrown Gods
    Painted puppets were placed,
    Figures of saints with plaster faces,
    Deformed by visible suffer.
    Was I supposed to waste my young years
    In gloomy vestibule of a closed temple,
    To renounce the world not being sure
    Of what the death and unearthly life will bring us?
    Can I choose the unrestrained
    lust of delight that awakens sadness?
    I've chosen fate of a soldier. Your fate.
    Because it's a male thing to fight with injustice,
    To defend the honour. Unnamed crime
    Is like a poison hidden in wine.
    Who dares to call me apostate?
    Who's the traitor here, and who remained faithful?
    Where is everything I'd believed in willingly?
    Oh Eusebius, dear Procopius,
    Today, in the hour of reckoning with life,
    I don't regret the fight and I don't regret the failure,
    But I'm afraid that I've missed something harder,
    Something that, above the human nature,
    Over the faults of animal herd,
    Is like air, like rays
    Of unknown surces flowing down on us.
    Galilean. I see whiteness again.
    Colours spinning round are flowing together.
    Everything I've believed in, I've hated,
    is deformed in this last thought.
    March of events shortens strangely, and thoughts
    that accompanied past deeds
    Stand alone, as if aside,
    Some amongst enemies, some amongst friends.
    Of row of my past days
    Some go away, grow and move at the head
    Of defeated army of days of my life.

    @@@
    Once I used to like poetry and translate stuff, though I do it quite miserably. It's one of my favourite poems, "Odszczepieniec" ("The Apostate"), by Antoni Slonimski, a polish poet of jewish origin, one of 5 poets of Skamander group. I find them the best polish poets of their times, which is funny, because none was of polish origin.
    Anyway, the poem is obviously about emperor Julian. In case someone does not know, Julian was nephew of emperor Constantine. After Constantine's death, much of his family was killed by the army to secure his sons' auccession, a crime sometimes attributed to Constantius. Yet, Julian and his brother Gallus were spared. We don't know why, perhaps because they were of poor health and it was thought they'd die anyway. During his studies, Julian got under influence of pagan philosophers and secretly converted to paganism. Constantius made Gallus caesar and settled him in Antioch, yet Gallus has proven to be a tyrant and was eventually killed. Then Constantius made Julian a caesar and sent him to Galia. Julian revolted and started a civil war, but, suprisingly, Constantius died and appointed him his successor. Then Julian announced his paganism and devouted himself to strenghtening the state, reforming paganism (taking example of christianity) and persecuting christians (these weren't bloody persecutions, though). Julian decided to make a giant expedition against Persia, which, if successful, would make his, and paganism's, position stronger in Roman Empire. During the preparations, Julian involved in conflict with great city of Antioch. Julian's expedition was a failure, partly because of his mistakes and pride (he refused to pay Arabic tribes for help, saying that good emperor has iron, not gold), and he himself died during the retreat. Some say he was killed by a man of his own army, another version says that the one who killed him was a christian Arab.
    The Empire lost some valuable fortresses and cities (including Nisibis) due to this failure, and the next emperor, Jovian, was Christian. Julian was the last pagan emperor.

    What I like the most is the hiena part and the ending, comparing Julian's defeated army to his defeated life.
    "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
    I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
    Middle East!

  • #2
    Apolytonian barbarians
    "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
    I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
    Middle East!

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    • #3
      Here's mine:

      Nine to five, no time to - get high
      No time for satisfaction, I need action
      Reaction of death, about to die, attraction
      last breath on my face, beautiful lips
      mutilated t1ts, I gotta have some distraction

      We're going to have alliance and you will sign this compliance
      You will get no food on days you shout in the basement
      You'll be nude, until I find your replacement
      Scream, scream, it'll be the opposite of your birthday
      In da butt.
      "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
      THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
      "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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      • #4
        Heresson, you poems was good; long.. but good!

        Here one of my favorites poets/mystics


        " Stanzas Of The Soul

        1. One dark night,
        fired with love's urgent longings
        - ah, the sheer grace! -
        I went out unseen,
        my house being now all stilled.

        2. In darkness, and secure,
        by the secret ladder, disguised,
        - ah, the sheer grace! -
        in darkness and concealment,
        my house being now all stilled.

        3. On that glad night,
        in secret, for no one saw me,
        nor did I look at anything,
        with no other light or guide
        than the one that burned in my heart.

        4. This guided me
        more surely than the light of noon
        to where he was awaiting me
        - him I knew so well -
        there in a place where no one appeared.

        5. O guiding night!
        O night more lovely than the dawn!
        O night that has united
        the Lover with his beloved,
        transforming the beloved in her Lover.

        6. Upon my flowering breast
        which I kept wholly for him alone,
        there he lay sleeping,
        and I caressing him
        there in a breeze from the fanning cedars.


        7. When the breeze blew from the turret,
        as I parted his hair,
        it wounded my neck
        with its gentle hand,
        suspending all my senses.

        8. I abandoned and forgot myself,
        laying my face on my Beloved;
        all things ceased; I went out from myself,
        leaving my cares
        forgotten among the lilies."

        St-John Of The Cross
        bleh

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Pekka
          Here's mine:

          Nine to five, no time to - get high
          No time for satisfaction, I need action
          Reaction of death, about to die, attraction
          last breath on my face, beautiful lips
          mutilated t1ts, I gotta have some distraction

          We're going to have alliance and you will sign this compliance
          You will get no food on days you shout in the basement
          You'll be nude, until I find your replacement
          Scream, scream, it'll be the opposite of your birthday


          The sweet brutality of Pekka vs the gracious poem of Heresson!

          Good one Pekka! ( in a gangsta rap songs it would be really REALLY good)
          bleh

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          • #6
            Gansta rap? What did you think, that I was on my knees singing love songs? I got a ***** in my basement right now!

            OK.. I don't even have a basement

            But glory glory hallelujah, the serial killers march on!

            We should have a serial killer web shop or something. You know, make like one of them e-bay shops. Then sell Serial Killer stuff.. books, movies, heck we could try and get them signed by them in prison, you know they like the fame so they'll prolly do it for free or small fee. People love that stuff, everyone wants like the autobiography from a serial killer with his signature 'Love, xxx'.

            We could authenticate our stuff, I'm telling you it'll do well, it won't make us rich but it'll allow us to pay some bills plus have some fun.
            In da butt.
            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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