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    I found this BBC article to be interesting. It appears that in Japan western style weddings are quickly replacing the traditional Shinto style wedding and now 90% of all weddings in Japan are now done in the western/Christian style. This has made a lucrative new business for westerners living in Japan to fake being a Christian priest so that they can get paid to perform western style weddings for Japanese couples.

    I know a Chinese couple who moved to the US and they told me that they also did a western style wedding instead of a traditional Chinese wedding and that in modern China it is not unusual for a couple to first do a western wedding and then a traditional Chinese wedding. Personally, I find the idea of two weddings to be excessively expensive but the Chinese always did enjoy a good party with family, friends, and lots of food. I understand that western weddings are also big in Korea.

    So what do you think is causing this? Is it western TV and movies? Is it just that people like the symbolism of a bride in a flowing white dress (to show her supposed purity), the kiss at the end, the enduring symbol of the ring? Anyway, it's interesting.


    Faking it as a priest in Japan
    With a rise in the popularity of Christian-style weddings in Japan, some Westerners are finding they can make a lucrative living by acting as priests. But it does not please everyone, particularly genuine priests, as Kathleen McCaul reports.

    Mark Kelly
    Mark Kelly acts as a fake priest at the weekend
    Mark Kelly is originally from Lancashire in England. He has been living in Japan for six years and, at the weekend, he is a fake priest.

    "I was living in Sapporo, studying Japanese, and I needed the money. It's far better paid than teaching in a language school," he said.

    "Being a fake priest is big business in Japan - I've done a TV commercial for one company," he added. "In Sapporo, there are five agencies employing about 20 fake priests. In a city like Tokyo, there must be hundreds."

    The fake Western priests are employed at Western-style weddings to give a performance and add to the atmosphere. These are not legal ceremonies - the couples also have to make a trip to the local registrar.

    "In the past almost all weddings in Japan were Shinto, but in the last few years Western-style weddings have appeared and become very popular," said one Japanese priest.


    It is important for the bride and groom to have a proper wedding, and they are not getting it from these foreign priests
    Japanese priest
    "People like the dress, the kiss and the image. Japanese Christians make up only 1% of the country, but now about 90% of weddings are in the Christian style."

    "At the hotel where I work, there is a Christian chapel next to a Shinto chapel. The Christian chapel is always in use, but the Shinto chapel is being used as a storeroom," Mr Kelly said.

    The fake Western priests are used to create an authentic Christian feel.

    "There are Japanese priests, but most couples are trying to re-create a European wedding, so overwhelmingly ask for a foreign priest," said Momo, who works at Morito Ishi Kyokai (forest and stone) chapel.

    Supermarket chic

    Western-style chapels are often found in unexpected places.

    Morito Ishi Kyokai is on the sixth floor of a supermarket in Sapporo.

    As you walk between sushi restaurants, cake shops and noodle bars, a grey plastic stone grotto decked in plastic flowers and fairy lights suddenly appears.

    Wedding dresses in a shop in Tokyo
    Many Japanese couples want Western-style weddings
    There are plastic cherubs and little fountains inside.

    "It is designed in the style of mid-century stone churches in Europe," said Momo.

    Mr Kelly worked at the chapel when it first opened.

    "Because it was in a shopping centre, you got the sounds of vegetables on special offer," he said.

    "It's very popular because it's still new," added Momo.

    Omi Junko plays the flute in a club and comes to the chapel to practise.

    "I like to come here. It has a good atmosphere because it is a church," she said.

    Hazards of the job

    The fake priests in Japan sometimes have to deal with difficult situations.

    "Once I was holding a ceremony and an old man dressed head to toe in military uniform hobbled to the front and fell asleep," said Mr Kelly.

    "Halfway through the service, he opened his eyes and I think he was back in Burma or Thailand. He looked straight at me, stood up and started unsheathing his rifle. Fortunately he was pretty slow and his relatives stopped him."


    Once, the bride vomited on me and then fainted. It wasn't very romantic
    Mark Kelly

    Mr Kelly has often presided over ceremonies where the bride is pregnant.

    "It is common. Once, the bride vomited on me and then fainted. It wasn't very romantic," he said.

    Another difficulty is meeting genuine Japanese priests.

    "We do occasionally bump into the real thing. They are very much against us, but there are not enough genuine Japanese priests to meet the demand" he said.

    One Japanese Christian priest spoke out, but did not want to be identified.

    "It is a real problem for us. They are not genuine and they give us a bad name," he said.

    "It is important for the bride and groom to have a proper wedding, and they are not getting it from these foreign priests. I have even heard of hotels using staff when they can't find anyone else."

    Omi Junko was surprised to find out that some of the Western priests were not genuine.

    "I thought the priests were all real and I think everyone in Japan thinks that," she said.

    But Mr Kelly argues that the ceremony is not about religion, but about image.

    "I give a good performance. I use an Apache wedding prayer in my ceremony. It works very well, although I had to take out the part about the bear god in the sky," he said.

    "If people are crying by the end of the wedding, I think I have done a good job."
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  • #2
    I am not surprised by Japan. Just like Japanese Culture is popular in American, American Culture has been popular in Japan (it isn't an accident that they are one of the few nonAmerican countries that play baseball). The Chinese (And to a much lesser extant Korean (There are lots of Korean Christians I think)) is much more surprising.

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    • #3
      Hmmmm, never heard of that in Korea. Maybe a new line of work for me

      There's a lot more Korean Christians here (especially among demographics that are getting married and can afford an expensive wedding) so they usually just have their real priest/minister/whatever do it. Old style ceremonies are very very rare (although they do exist, that's what I did) usually its Christian or bubble maker/strobe lights Disnefied pseud-Christian.
      Stop Quoting Ben

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      • #4
        It's what I'm doing too.
        ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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        • #5
          The old-style ceremony, that is. Not the fake priest thing.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by joncha
            The old-style ceremony, that is. Not the fake priest thing.
            And you got my hopes up for a second there...

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            • #7
              I think they want a fake priest, the thing is having a western wedding, not becoming christians, or getting married by church, which is what would happen if a real priest utters the words
              I need a foot massage

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              • #8
                christian weddings? Bah, christian weddings are boring. Now OTOH I think WE've got a real market opportunity in Japan, if we can only figure out how to exploit it.
                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                • #9
                  a market opportunity and you don't know how to exploit it? what kind of a jew ferengi american are you?

                  urgh.NSFW

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Az
                    a market opportunity and you don't know how to exploit it? what kind of a jew ferengi american are you?

                    not a rich one
                    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                    • #11
                      Meh, we all know Hindu weddings are the most fun. I mean, haven't you watched "Monsoon Wedding?" ALL Hindu weddings are EXACTLY like that one, after all.
                      THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                      AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                      AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                      DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                      • #12
                        All weddings are stupid. Just sign the papers and get on with it. Save everyone involved a lot of trouble.

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                        • #13
                          But then you don't get free booze and can't hit on the hot bridesmaids
                          THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                          AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                          AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                          DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Winston
                            All weddings are stupid. Just sign the papers and get on with it. Save everyone involved a lot of trouble.
                            Agreed. Ceremonial Minimalism.

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                            • #15
                              You assume that there ARE hot bridesmaids.
                              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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