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  • Report: Kim sorry about N. Korea nuclear test

    Bull****.
    The Dwarf isn't "sorry", and he can take his call for no sanctions and shove it, still.

    He is said to tell China that six-party talks could restart under conditions

    NBC, MSNBC and news services
    Updated: 1 hour, 46 minutes ago

    SEOUL, South Korea - North Korean leader Kim Jong Il expressed regret about his country’s nuclear test to a Chinese delegation and said Pyongyang would return to international nuclear talks if Washington backs off a campaign to financially isolate the country, South Korean media reported Friday.

    “If the U.S. makes a concession to some degree, we will also make a concession to some degree, whether it be bilateral talks or six-party talks,” Kim was quoted as telling a Chinese envoy, the mass-circulation Chosun Ilbo reported, citing a diplomatic source in China.

    Kim told the Chinese delegation that “he is sorry about the nuclear test,” the newspaper reported.

    Kim also said that “we have no plans for additional nuclear tests,” the Yonhap news agency reported, citing an unnamed diplomatic source in Beijing.

    China: Visit not in vain
    The delegation led by State Councilor Tang Jiaxuan met Kim on Thursday and returned to Beijing later that day — ahead of U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s arrival in the Chinese capital Friday. China is viewed as a key nation in efforts to persuade the North to disarm, as it is the isolated communist nation’s main trading partner.

    Meeting with Rice in Beijing on Friday, Tang said that his trip had “not been in vain.”

    Rice said on Friday that the United States would be willing to return to six-party talks, but that financial restrictions on Pyongyang would remain.

    “The Chinese are emphasizing the need for six-party talks to begin again and for the North to re-engage in the talks,” Rice told reporters in Beijing. “They (North Korea) urged us to be open to returning to those talks without preconditions, which for us is not difficult,” she said after talks with Tang.

    But Rice did not hear of any concrete assurances or any kind of apology from North Korean during the talks with Tang, or even specifics on how North Korea might be drawn back into the six-party talks, sources at the meeting told NBC foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell. The talks were described not as a breakthrough but as possibly the start of a long diplomatic track.

    The North has refused since last November to return to the nuclear talks, which also include China, Japan, Russia and South Korea. Pyongyang has sought bolster its negotiating position by a series of provocative actions, test-firing a barrage of missiles in July and performing its first-ever nuclear test Oct. 9.

    North Korea has long insisted that the United States desist from a campaign to sever its ties to the international financial system. Washington accuses Pyongyang of complicity in counterfeiting and money laundering to sell weapons of mass destruction.

    Beijing stops financial transfers
    China is believed to be North Korea’s main link to the world financial system. China’s importance increased after Washington imposed sanctions on a Macau bank that served North Korean companies, making other financial institutions uneasy about dealing with Pyongyang.

    But China itself has also imposed financial restrictions. Chinese banks this week stopped financial transfers to North Korea under government orders as part of sanctions imposed for Pyongyang’s nuclear test, bank employees said Friday, in a possibly serious blow to the country’s frail economy.

    The policy is a break with China’s earlier reluctance to use economic pressure against the North for fear its ally’s government might collapse.

    All four major Chinese state-owned banks and British-owned HSBC Corp. have stopped financial transfers to the North, according to bank employees in Beijing and the northeastern Chinese city of Shenyang.
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    Ouch. One wonders how secure his position is with the military once they see this sign of weakness.
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    • #3
      China is so dominant in that relationship that you almost feel bad for Kim.

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      • #4
        He's definitely got delusions of grandeur, hasn't he?
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        • #5
          This story suggests that China is more influential than the USA when it comes to North Korea.

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          • #6
            Gee, Cort. Ya think?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cort Haus
              This story suggests that China is more influential than the USA when it comes to North Korea.
              You suggest otherwise?

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              • #8
                China: Jump
                Kim: How high?
                China: about an inch
                Kim: ok.

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                • #9
                  how cute
                  I need a foot massage

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                  • #10
                    I suspect the Dwarf used some other term than "sorry." He apparently truly believes he is the "Enlightened One," so how could he do wrong? Or apologize? I suspect he said he would "behave" based on China's request.

                    Appears both the Chinese and the South Koreans are more worried his regime will collapse than they are about nukes. This seems very short-sighted. His regime will fall one day. Meanwhile it would be better if he couldn't sell nukes to the highest bidders.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Blaupanzer
                      I suspect the Dwarf used some other term than "sorry."
                      Your right its tough for him to make those "R" sounds.

                      Probably went with aporagize instead of saying he was solly.

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                      • #12
                        "I'm sorry. Sorry there wasn't an earth-shattering KA-BOOM!!! Mwa ha haa haaa!!!"
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Blaupanzer
                          Appears both the Chinese and the South Koreans are more worried his regime will collapse than they are about nukes. This seems very short-sighted. His regime will fall one day. Meanwhile it would be better if he couldn't sell nukes to the highest bidders.
                          Sadly, I don't see a better way out of this.
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                          • #14
                            I think the NK leadership miscalculated on just how much the Chinese lost face when NK ignored them utterly, and how pissed the Chinese leadership got.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Blaupanzer
                              I suspect the Dwarf used some other term than "sorry." He apparently truly believes he is the "Enlightened One," so how could he do wrong? Or apologize? I suspect he said he would "behave" based on China's request.

                              Appears both the Chinese and the South Koreans are more worried his regime will collapse than they are about nukes. This seems very short-sighted. His regime will fall one day. Meanwhile it would be better if he couldn't sell nukes to the highest bidders.
                              And in the chaos, wouldn;t it be easier for people to sell nukes?
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