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Getting a squad of war elephants or two is a must when playing "Rome Total War". A balanced and well used combination of elephants, some heavy infantry, a bunch of archers and some heavy artillery can defeat much bigger armies than your own.
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I find flaming arrows take down Mumakil pretty quickly in Battle for Middle Earth.
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War elephants are afraid of fire. OTOH, people who have never seen elephants are even more afraid of war elephants. They were good at shocking infantry who hadn't seen them before, but disciplinely led troops quickly learned tricks to trap them. Funny how flaming arrows already came up, the only example I've read about was Romans using arrows set on fire.
Originally posted by snoopy369
IIRC elephants were more useful as transportation (ie, Hannibal) than as actual cavalry types.
He used them for troop transport? Sounds weird -- more info?
Originally posted by Heresson
I've won many civ2 wars with elephants
I usually go for Crusaders -- nothing funnier than surprising Kassiopeia's rapidly expanding, but badly defended (on an island, so makes sense early on) monarchy with few phalanxes by unloading four veteran crusaders from 2 tririmes right next to their 2nd most major city
Transport sounds dubious to me, an elephant would need a wider path then a horse and elephants being large are proportionaly weaker (for the same enginering reasons that an ant can lift 100's of times its own weight). Add in the huge quantities of food and I'm fairly shure they are a big impediment to an army.
Shock value was ofcorse huge, from what I've heard the elephants were driven forward to trample and disrupt the enemy infantry formation, then your own infantry could mop up the disorganized troops. Romans countered this by simply opening up lanes in their formations. The elephant could not be controled to the point of making int trample men when their was a path of lesser resistance avalible to it. So they go right down the lane and cant be turned around. Romans did this in the battle of Zama (sp?) ware Hanibal was decisivly defeated by scipio Africanas.
If I had been Hanibal and for forsight of the roman tactics my counter would be to group the elephants in pairs and connect them with a heavy Iron chain about as long as the roman units were wide. As the elphants advance the chain sweeps along about a foot off the ground knocking, tripping up and otherwise disorganizing their ranks. Oh and the chain has sharpened blades and barbed wire like spikes on it as well.
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Well if its just dipped in oil then its would probaly burn off too fast and run out before contact with the enemy. Rather I would equip some of the Elephants with thouse little forts on their backs filled will Maltoph coctails and guys pitching them off the sides into the middle of the roman formations.
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Elephants were the most useful when they formed a solid , charging wall on a plane battlefield . Enemy troops would be totally crushed and trampled if a commander could manage an elephant wall charge .
Originally posted by aneeshm
Elephants were the most useful when they formed a solid , charging wall on a plane battlefield . Enemy troops would be totally crushed and trampled if a commander could manage an elephant wall charge .
Perhaps they encountered the same problem that many of Hitlers Wunderwaffen (and more sophisticated tanks) had,
i.e. they were too rare (for example because they neeeded a long time to grow up and, of course, massive amounts of expensive food)
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
I like the way that War Elephants in civ 4 require the ivory resource. Do you regenerate them from a tusk?
Yep,
stick it into the ground and water it well
and then, after a while, elephants will grow out of it
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Originally posted by Japher
I'd think the transportation aspect of a War Elephant would be the most compeling reason to use them. Especially in a jungle where they would be able to plow through the brush, instead of having to clear as you go.
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