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  • Clark: Hanging Saddam would cause chaos

    Ramsey Clark's got some bad news.

    By WILLIAM C. MANN, Associated Press Writer
    1 hour, 50 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON - Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark, a member of
    Saddam Hussein's defense team, predicted on Thursday that a bloodbath would follow should an Iraqi court trying the former president have him executed.

    At a news conference, Clark said he feared that should Saddam and the others be hanged, "catastrophic violence" would follow that would lead to "the end of civilization as we know it in the birthplace of civilization, Mesopotamia. Total, unmitigated chaos."

    Saddam's Sunni Muslim tribe of 1.5 million would be enraged over what they would consider the revenge killing of the former president by the Shiite-controlled and U.S.-sponsored government, Clark said.

    Clark, 78, was attorney general under President Johnson despite opposing the Vietnam War and has been best known since for defending people with unpopular causes. Besides Saddam, he has worked with blind Egyptian cleric Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, a planner of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and American Indian activist Leonard Peltier, convicted in a 1975 gunfight at the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in which two
    FBI agents died.

    Saddam and the other defendants, who include his vice president, Taha Yassin Ramadan, are being tried for genocide in the deaths of tens of thousands of Iraqi Kurds during the late 1980s. They already have been tried for murder and torture in the deaths of 148 Iraqi Shiites from the Iraqi town of Dujail who allegedly conspired to kill Saddam in 1981.

    The court that tried them was to have returned its verdict on Oct. 16, but it announced this week it will not do so. A new date was not set.

    Clark said the defendants are at Camp Cropper near Baghdad's airport in a new $60 million detention center. The Army says it oversees about 13,000 prisoners in
    Iraq at Cropper, Camp Bucca in the southern desert and Fort Suse in the Kurdish north.

    The United States has said it transferred Saddam to Iraqi custody some time ago, but his whereabouts have not been divulged.

    In March, an AP-Ipsos poll in the United States and several other countries found that two out of three Americans felt Saddam was getting a fair trial and if convicted should be executed. Lesser majorities in eight other countries polled said he was being tried fairly and should be jailed for life if convicted.
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    At a news conference, Clark said he feared that should Saddam and the others be hanged, "catastrophic violence" would follow that would lead to "the end of civilization as we know it in the birthplace of civilization, Mesopotamia. Total, unmitigated chaos."
    That's lawyer-speak for normal..
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    • #3
      Re: Clark: Hanging Saddam would cause chaos

      Originally posted by SlowwHand
      Ramsey Clark's got some bad news.
      Given his statements in the past justifying and admitting that Saddam ordered the massacre and torture of civilians, why should we take his ravings now seriously?

      But looking at his legal arguments, one must question the wisdom of his legal counsel, not just his morals. A prominent international lawyer explains, "He's not really very well up on international law -- I remember he was asking for help in some of his early cases."
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      • #4
        He's represented others that had to have lawyers. About the best I can say is he's got balls, considering the fates of Hussein's prior legal defenses.
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        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        • #5
          My latin terms for logical fallacies are fuzzy, but I believe the prof used to call this one "argumentum ad baculum." Argument from Force. Do this not because it is correct, but because you will be hurt if you do not. I suppose it might be a valid practical consideration for the prosecution in a weak government like Iraq's, but it seems oily coming from the defense somehow.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by SlowwHand
            He's represented others that had to have lawyers.
            They might have appreciated it better if he actually seemed to know something about the law rather than a crank who masquerades as a lawyer.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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            • #7
              I didn't say he was a good lawyer. I posted an event of the trial. Whether he's good or not, isn't my point.
              I wouldn't be surprised if he's right in his statement, though. It won't be the singing of praises by the masses, all-inclusive.

              I still expect he'll be executed. They can't afford the security risk of imprisonment.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #8
                They''l have chaos if they don't finish his trial. They'll have chaos if they sentence him to jail. They'll have chaos if they release him. Guess what? They have chaos.
                "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                • #9
                  Right. Normal. The place is a madhouse. I think ACS should be there.
                  Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                  "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                  He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                  • #10
                    I'm extremely uncomfortable with the relationship between Clark and Workers World. Don't get me wrong. I love my WW comrades and admire the work they do, but a former AG of the United States should be having anything to do with them. I can't believe that a guy who's former job was persecuting communists has become a fellow travelor, unless he's suffered serious mental disabilities. I mean, that's a really extreme change . . . but then, I know little about the intervening decades. It just feels to me like my comrades are taking advantage of a confused old man.
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                    • #11
                      Hm, a defense lawyer arguing that his client shouldn't be executed.. Now I've seen everything!

                      Anyway, this would've never happened in Romania.

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                      • #12
                        He's not even a good lawyer, che. Surely there are better commie lawyers to be found. What use is he to them other than someone they can trot out before the media on the strength of his former job?
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                        • #13
                          Re: Clark: Hanging Saddam would cause chaos

                          Fine. Don't hang him. Quater him.
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                          • #14
                            Revenge killing? Isn't that a staple in the culture... Well, atleast towards women... Or was it honor...

                            Or is it just plain old killing...
                            I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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                            • #15
                              Shoot him, then.

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