Reading can be so taxing, after all.
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Reading bull**** is taxing.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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I wish I had such a simplistic view of things; it must be so much easier to say "bull****" than to actually examine and unfamiliar argument
Originally posted by SlowwHand
A) Bull****
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More bull****.
Originally posted by SlowwHand
Reading bull**** is taxing.THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF
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I'd just ask for UK to seperated from france there really, we were one of the front runners in the nuke program, france was the "me-too" nation.
But the political argument really only counts when a country is being pressured with the threat of military action. Nowadays we don't really say OUR WORDS ARE BACKED WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS, it's rude.
In the post ww2 / cold war period and the resulting paranoia, things really were unsettled, few had such a cozy view of the future as we do nowadays. Nuclear war was a real fear, and not having nukes, as silly as it sounds was deemed dangerous in the countries which could afford to develop nukes. The threat of nuclear war may have faded, but the defensive value, for weak isolated nations is still very strong.
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If you would say something that required more than that simple statement, I might be inclined.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
If you would say something that required more than that simple statement, I might be inclined.
THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF
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The USA dropped 2 bombs 60 years ago, and didn't even realize the devestation it would cause.
If we were so offensive-minded, we'd have used them more.
Per you, all countries besides India are to be suspected. I take that back, you do include Israel. That's just another amazing point, given the rest of your rationale.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
The USA dropped 2 bombs 60 years ago, and didn't even realize the devestation it would cause.
If we were so offensive-minded, we'd have used them more.
Originally posted by SlowwHand
Per you, all countries besides India are to be suspected. I take that back, you do include Israel. That's just another amazing point, given the rest of your rationale.THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF
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Ask yourself. You're the one that said it.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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This might be that "reading" thing again. I said India was like all the other countries, except Israel.THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF
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In the modern era, Nuclear Weapons are solely defensive weapons. No nation would use them offensively due to the international outcry and likely reprisals for doing so; and the acquisition of nuclear weapons ensures a nation's territorial security against all but the most insane opponent. Therefore, they have defensive value, and with no offensive value they are thus defensive weapons. QED.<Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.
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Sweet. Nothing to worry about, then. Go ahead with your weapons programs, Kim, Mahmoud.THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF
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NK certainly has acquired them as a defensive weapon. They are concerned about the US or SK invading them, as well as giving them the ability to talk louder without being concerned about a military backlash.
India/Pakistan forced each other into doing so, also as a defensive weapon - if one and not the other had acquired them, the other would have inevitably lost the military conflict once the nuclear power possessed a conventional advantage.
Israel CERTAINLY acquired them as a defensive weapon. I can't imagine someone arguing with that one.
Iran acquired them (or is trying to acquire them) to ensure their ability to survive US aggression and potential Iraqi/Saudi hegemonical aggression.
Now, I'm not saying your list of 'diplomatic' reasons is incorrect. To a large extent, it's accurate. However, the diplomatic reasons and the military ones are tied together, and both exist in most cases. US, USSR, Britain, France acquired them in the premodern era, and China had defensive reasons that were secondary to the diplomatic reasons (and also were premodern acquisitors).<Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.
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Originally posted by LordShiva
Sweet. Nothing to worry about, then. Go ahead with your weapons programs, Kim, Mahmoud.
The process of acquiring nukes is the most dangerous time for war, as the opponent clearly has a huge incentive to attack the acquisitor while they are still not in possession of the nuclear weapon, as it marks a clear shift in the balance of power. The fact that a massive war did NOT break out in India/Pakistan pre-nukes is probably solely because both nations realized that they'd get nukes at around the same time; had India but not Pakistan acquired nukes (in a reasonable time frame), that would have nearly ensured a major conflict.<Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.
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Originally posted by PLATO
Louisiana purchase?
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