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  • Iraq terrorist calls scientists to jihad

    Why, no. There aren't any Iraqi terrorists.
    What's this bozo then?

    By PATRICK QUINN, Associated Press Writer
    7 minutes ago

    CAIRO, Egypt - In a new audio message Thursday, the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq called for explosives experts and nuclear scientists to join his group's holy war against the West. "We are in dire need of you," said the man, who identified himself as Abu Hamza al-Muhajir — also known as Abu Ayyub al-Masri — the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq.

    "The field of jihad (holy war) can satisfy your scientific ambitions, and the large American bases (in Iraq) are good places to test your unconventional weapons, whether biological or dirty, as they call them."

    He also said that more than 4,000 foreign militants have been killed in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003 — the first apparent acknowledgment from the insurgents about their losses.

    It was unclear why al-Masri would advertise the loss of the group's foreign fighters, but martyrdom is revered among Islamic fundamentalists, and could be used as a recruiting tool. The Arabic word he used, "muhajer," indicated he was speaking about foreigners who joined the insurgency in Iraq, not coalition troops.

    "The blood has been spilled in Iraq of more than 4,000 foreigners who came to fight," al-Masri purportedly said on the 20-minute tape. The voice could not be independently identified.

    The statement followed the release of a U.N. report Wednesday that said fewer foreign fighters have been killed or captured in Iraq in the last few months, "suggesting that the flow has slackened." The report, which cited several intelligence and security agencies, also said some fighters had expressed dissatisfaction they were asked to kill fellow Muslims rather than Western soldiers and that the only role for them was to be suicide bombers.

    Analysts said al-Masri's statement appeared aimed at burnishing the group's image.

    "It's showing the level of dedication to their cause, the level of sacrifice jihadists are making. ... It's almost showing a sense of strength and purpose to other people around world who might be thinking about joining the fight," said Ben N. Venzke, director of IntelCenter, a U.S.-based group that provides counterterrorism information to the U.S. government and media.

    In the audio message, al-Masri also offered amnesty to Iraqis who cooperated with their country's "occupiers," calling on them to "return to your religion and nation" during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which Sunnis began observing in Iraq on Saturday and Shiites on Monday.

    "We will not attack you as long as you declare your true repentance in front of your tribe and relatives," he said. "The amnesty ends by the end of this holy month."

    He urged insurgents to capture Westerners so they could be traded for the imprisoned Egyptian sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, who was convicted in 1995 of conspiring to blow up New York landmarks.

    "I appeal to every holy warrior in the land of Iraq to exert all efforts in this holy month so that God may enable us to capture some of the Western dogs to swap them with our sheik and get him out of his dark prison," the voice on the tape said.

    Al-Masri, a Sunni Muslim, is believed to have succeeded Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who died in a U.S. airstrike north of Baghdad in June.

    Al-Masri appeared last week in a Web video apparently killing a Turkish hostage in Iraq. The video, initially released in 2004, was believed to be the first of al-Masri to be released since he took control of the militant group.

    Thursday's audio recording appeared on a Web site that frequently airs al-Qaida tapes and messages. A banner posted there Wednesday said al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri would soon release a new message about the pope,
    President Bush and Sudan's troubled Darfur region.
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  • #2
    Are they trying to recruit KH?
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    • #3
      He's begging to join them. Mobius is already a part of their Tokyo Rose/Hanoi Hanna propaganda machine.

      "Give up, G.I.'s. We have you surrounded."
      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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      • #4
        Hasn't this been repeated a thousand times? Who came first: the terrorist or the Americans? The chaos that ensued after the fall of Saddam gave the terrorist the oppertunity to go there and create mayhem in the first place.

        Maybe if you didn't go there the terrorist would have come anyway. Small chance.

        Maybe if you didn't go there Saddam would have used his WMD's to threaten Israel, the US and the rest of the free world. Small chance.

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        • #5
          It's easy to see how true to his religion the man is, now isn't it?

          "Let's do jihad during our Holy time."
          Well, alrighty then.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #6
            The field of jihad (holy war) can satisfy your scientific ambitions, and the large American bases (in Iraq) are good places to test your unconventional weapons, whether biological or dirty, as they call them."
            Was this the classified they placed in the NYT?

            34 words.

            How many weeks do they get to run it?
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            • #7
              jihad (holy war)
              Anyone else annoyed by the use of this term (saying that jihad is a holy war) in every news report? Two things here. 1) WE GET THE POINT ALREADY. 2) Jihad can't simply be described by "holy war", anyway - it's not directly analagous to a crusade, although it is a reasonable approximation in some contexts.
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              • #8
                I felt that way about Gay at one time; but I never used the word gay anyway, so I quit caring about the word theft.

                Arabic word that means "striving in the way of God." This striving can take a number of forms, including the daily inner struggle to be a better person. However, jihad is often used to refer to an armed struggle fought in defense of Islam.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Heerscher
                  Hasn't this been repeated a thousand times? Who came first: the terrorist or the Americans? The chaos that ensued after the fall of Saddam gave the terrorist the oppertunity to go there and create mayhem in the first place.

                  Maybe if you didn't go there the terrorist would have come anyway. Small chance.

                  Maybe if you didn't go there Saddam would have used his WMD's to threaten Israel, the US and the rest of the free world. Small chance.
                  This is crap.

                  4000 foriegn fighters! How many foriegn fighters are there?

                  If the US had not entered Iraq, are you suggesting that AQ's army would be peacefully sitting around sipping tea?

                  I say that this is a further justification for invading Iraq! Gathering all these terrorist in one place where the power of the US military can be brought to bear is a good thing imho.

                  Is there anyonw who would rather the terrorist be operating in a different country? Perhaps your own country? Not me! Get 'em all into Iraq and kill them.

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                  • #10
                    Why, no. There aren't any Iraqi terrorists.
                    Strawman alert! Code Red! Code Red!

                    For the last fugging time, Sloww. There weren't a bunch of terrorists (Al Qaida or otherwise) in Iraq until we invaded the place and took out Saddam (Saddam was, of course, paying money to Palestinian suicide bomber's families and was himself a rat bastard, but that's another matter). There most certainly are terrorists, A-Q included, in Iraq NOW. Excellent work by the Lord Protector Bush!

                    -Arrian
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                    • #11
                      I thought we were happily killing them in Afghanistan. Was buisiness so go that we had to open up a franchise?
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #12
                        I say that this is a further justification for invading Iraq! Gathering all these terrorist in one place where the power of the US military can be brought to bear is a good thing imho.

                        Is there anyonw who would rather the terrorist be operating in a different country? Perhaps your own country? Not me! Get 'em all into Iraq and kill them.
                        The moths to a flame argument. It's interesting, but only if you believe that you can realistically bleed the terrorists dry of manpower. I don't think you can. Their recruitment base is pretty much unlimited, and they've no shortage of recruitment tools (in part due to our blunders).

                        edit: and DD is correct - Afganistan could (and does, to an extent) serve this purpose just fine.

                        -Arrian
                        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                        • #13
                          I think Saddam had built huge stockpiles of bananas.
                          Blah

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                          • #14
                            Sloww, please tell me you're just trolling and you don't actually believe what you appear to be asserting in the OP. It's important to me that you're not a complete imbecile.

                            -Arrian
                            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc
                              I thought we were happily killing them in Afghanistan. Was buisiness so go that we had to open up a franchise?
                              It was really just to far for the Syrian faction to travel...
                              "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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