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  • #16
    Originally posted by Donegeal
    There is a thread on this topic already...

    http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=157486
    First thought was WTF, I DID check if others had made a thread - then I clikced -

    OTOH, this lawsuit is a bit catch 22'ish. It will probably run for some years, and if the car companies contiunues business as usual, they can get in deeper trouble if they are convicted. That's local commentators interpretation - does that have any validity ?
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    • #17
      I agree flubber, petrol is a luxery that causes harm to others, and requires a great deal of expenditure on behalf of the government to maintain, and so should be taxed as much as it is, if not more.
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      • #18
        Even though bringing the suit is a stupid idea, and the AG should be voted out ASAP, California may have a strong case.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Flubber


          I disagree-- to me taxes ARE the proper way to address government needs related to certain common activities. So I have no problem with gas taxes for building roads or even as an instrument of public policy to try to influence driving habits.

          While generally I like lower taxes, I do see a place for taxes directed at specific types of consumption if such consumption causes certain governmental costs.


          In the case of gasoline taxes should be used to offset the negative externalities that gasoline causes - pollution and congestion.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Colonâ„¢
            I wonder if California state attorney general elections are coming up.
            Yes, but Lockyer's running for something else....Insurance Commission, IIRC, or maybe Treasurer.

            Ex-Gov. Jerry Brown is going to be the next California Attorney General.

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            • #21
              Ex-Gov. Jerry Brown is going to be the next California Attorney General.
              And heaven help you...
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #22
                Florida should sue, since auto exist is going to put us underwater.
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                • #23
                  Wow, what a retarded lawsuit. Leaves you wondering if it's the Onion.
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                  • #24
                    Cars don't create pollution, burning gasoline in the engine creates pollution.

                    as much as I agree with accounting for the externalized costs of driving, this is the wrong way to do it. The state ought to be suing gasoline refineries, not car factories.
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                    • #25
                      The state ought to be not suing anyone, since no one violated any law.

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                      • #26
                        The state ought to be imposing draconian measures to limit emissions if that's what it really wants. I'd personally support measures to increase fuel standards beyond what the feds are doing and to ensure that all classes of vehicles are propperly covered.

                        Alternatively, I'd like to see lawsuits against the people funding the "grassroots" Global Warming deniers like Exxon.
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                        • #27
                          I wonder if NZ could sue the US for being a big polluter if this succeeds.

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