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  • #16
    Originally posted by MOBIUS


    If it wasn't for the French, you'd still likely be a British Colony...

    And then the 'British Colonial States' could have joined WWII in 1939 instead of sitting on the fence like a bunch of pussies!
    because of course if there was no US the next 160 years of history would have played out exactly as they did in OTL. More likely we'd be celebrating the revolution of 1837, which established the Republic of North America, which led to the failed UK Reform Law of 1846, which combined with the Potato Rebellion led to the counter revolution of the 1850s. See "Disraeli and Dictatorship" by Pierre Trudeau, Prof of History, Jefferson University, Toronto, Ontario, Republic of North America. See also "Ordinary Britons - the Irish Genocide and the Coalition War of 1884" by Michael Collins, but be aware that he was living in Russia when he wrote it, and many say it is really a justification of neopanslav aggression in the Middle East.
    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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    • #17
      So what would that mean then? Please, continue the fantasy, it sounds interesting
      Speaking of Erith:

      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Provost Harrison
        So what would that mean then? Please, continue the fantasy, it sounds interesting
        well there are many questions. One is could the UK and Prussia/Hanover have defeated France, Russia, and Austria if the Republic of North America had not intervened on the Coalition side? North Americans usually say no, but Russians point to the limited North American casualty figures, the dominant role of Russian land forces, etc. This became especially contentious in recent years when Russia and North America became bitter rivals.
        Second - with British defeat, was the Labour Revolution of 1885 inevitable? While Disrealis downfall was certain, some claim that a third way could have been found - if not by the long discredited and repressed Liberals, than by others. Its also not clear if the Fabianist coup was inevitable.

        Some suggest that absent the war France would have followed a revolutionary path itself, immediately. I myself think that it was only after the hardening of the Bonapartist regime in the late 1880s that a socialist revolution, with the inspiration of the British model was possible. Some of course wonder what the course of the French and Brit revolutions would have been had they not been crushed by Russian-North American intervention. Remember when Gen John Pershing entered Paris, and said "Communards be damned, we are here"? And the famous image of American cavalry, meeting Russian cossacks at the Rhine?
        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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        • #19
          And then

          The Psychlos attack the earth and destroy everything in 9 minutes.....
          “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

          ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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          • #20
            No, the Minbari...
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