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  • Fighting Terror by Attacking ... South America?

    There's a pretty high bar on news that makes former Undersecretary of Defense Doug Feith look like an even bigger jackass.

    But this may meet the standard. According to this Periscope report in Newsweek, just after 9/11, as administration officials were debating where to launch the war on terror, Feith came up with an idea that showed he was really thinking outside the box.

    The first attacks, he apparently wrote, should come in South America. Such attacks would have the advantage of being "a surprise to the terrorists."

    Feith and his advisors "argued that an attack on terrorists in South America -- for example, a remote region on the border of Paraguay, Argentina and Brazil where intelligence reports said Iranian-backed Hizbullah had a presence -- would have ripple effects on other terrorist operations."

    I don't usually find much common ground with Feith. But I think he's right that such an attack would have come as quite a surprise to the terrorists. But why stop there? They probably would have been even more dumbfounded if we'd blown up one of our ships in our initial round of retaliation, or perhaps bombed Portugal.

    All jokes aside, consider that this fool was a key architect of our policies in fighting terrorism.

    Aug. 9 issue - Days after 9/11, a senior Pentagon official lamented the lack of good targets in Afghanistan and proposed instead U.S. military attacks in South America or Southeast Asia as "a surprise to the terrorists," according to a footnote in the recent 9/11 Commission Report. The unsigned top-secret memo, which the panel's report said appears to have been written by Defense Under Secretary Douglas Feith, is one of several Pentagon documents uncovered by the commission which advance unorthodox ideas for the war on terror. The memo suggested "hitting targets outside the Middle East in the initial offensive" or a "non-Al Qaeda target like Iraq," the panel's report states. U.S. attacks in Latin America and Southeast Asia were portrayed as a way to catch the terrorists off guard when they were expecting an assault on Afghanistan.

    The memo's content, NEWSWEEK has learned, was in part the product of ideas from a two-man secret Pentagon intelligence unit appointed by Feith after 9/11: veteran defense analyst Michael Maloof and Mideast expert David Wurmser, now a top foreign-policy aide to Dick Cheney. Maloof and Wurmser saw links between international terror groups that the CIA and other intelligence agencies dismissed. They argued that an attack on terrorists in South America—for example, a remote region on the border of Paraguay, Argentina and Brazil where intelligence reports said Iranian-backed Hizbullah had a presence—would have ripple effects on other terrorist operations. The proposals were floated to top foreign-policy advisers. But White House officials stress they were regarded warily and never adopted.

    Other proposals got greater traction. The 9/11 Commission says the idea of attacking Iraq also was pushed in a Sept. 17 memo by Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz. Wolfowitz argued that the odds were "far more" than one in 10 that Saddam Hussein was behind the 9/11 attacks, citing in part theories by controversial academic Laurie Mylroie that Ramzi Yousef, mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, was an Iraqi intelligence agent. (The commission's report found "no credible evidence" that Iraq was behind the 1993 attack—and no Iraqi involvement in 9/11. A Wolfowitz aide said the memo "did not talk about theories, but facts.") Still, critics say, the ideas put forward by Wolfowitz, Feith and others in the Pentagon set the stage for the war in Iraq. The 9/11 Commission plans to put more aspects of the government's secret war on terror into the public domain this month, including a report on the role of Saudi-backed charities in financing Al Qaeda.





    I need a foot massage

  • #2
    with **** like this we are dooooooooomed
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      • #4
        Attacking Latin America might be a little over to top. Maybe if we just built a wall -- oh wait, we already are.

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        • #5
          Wall....meh.

          Friendship ditch.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Velociryx
            Wall....meh.

            Friendship ditch.

            -=Vel=-
            You really don't get the Bush administration Vel. Friendship is not the issue! It is all about freedom...hence:

            Freedom Wall.

            Doubleplus good!
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            • #7
              1. Al Qaeeda murdered Shah Ahmed Massoud, longtime leader of the Afghan resistance to the USSR, and then leader of the Northern Alliance, on Sept 9th, 2001, two days before the WTC attack. Obviously they WERE expecting us to hit back in Afghanistan, and were hoping to defeat us there (perhaps with the model of the USSR in mind)

              2. Given the above, it made sense to THINK about alternatives - its part of sound military thought to strike where the other guy does NOT expect it.

              3. It was, I presume, Feiths job to circulate some alternatives, which could then be analyzed and struck down.

              4. These alternatives were struck down, appropriately. While the region of South America in question was an area of concern, it was obviously preferable to work with the local friendly govts to handle it.

              5. Doug Feith seems to have been responsible for many of the mistakes that have made the Iraq situation as bad as it is, from underestimating troop needs to mishandling Abu Ghraib. He was fired over a year ago. But piling on is always fair game, right?
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              • #8
                "But White House officials stress they were regarded warily and never adopted."

                So whats the story?
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                • #9
                  Well, just in case somebody might still think this Administration is doing a good job, ya know. I hear tell there are a few such deluded folks still out there.

                  -Arrian
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                  • #10
                    This would have been a good way to revive American imperialism in South America.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arrian
                      Well, just in case somebody might still think this Administration is doing a good job, ya know. I hear tell there are a few such deluded folks still out there.

                      -Arrian
                      And we're going to judge them on policies that were proposed and immediately dismissed? Geez, I bet if we looked at everything any undersecretary or Deputy Secretary proposed that the WH nixed, we could make a case that this was a liberal progressive admin
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                      • #12
                        The administration wasn't really concerned with were the Muslim terrorists were and half of the dumb asses in the administration were so ignorant they wouldn't know a Muslim from a Hindu. The only concern of these sick stupid ****s was how they could some how twist this to their advantage. Thus we got the invasion of Iraq and the constient claims that Iraq was some how in league with Al Qaeda which was utterly bull**** as anyone who knew anything about Saddam's secular nationalists Ba'ath movement could tell. Unfortunately, Americans are an ignorant bunch most of whom couldn't tell a Ba'ath from a bath tub.
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                        • #13
                          Having a bad day today, Oerdin?
                          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by lord of the mark But piling on is always fair game, right?
                            Generally, it has a lower risk to the on-piler. Usually, it's the first few tacklers that gets the brunt of the reactive force.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MrFun
                              Having a bad day today, Oerdin?
                              Got dumped last night.
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