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Originally posted by DanS
Did you go to college? Are you happy with your education?
I ask because the US is considered to have excellent colleges, and many other countries are considered to be lagging. But does this perception bear out in actual fact for you personally? The US spends a very high amount on its universities compared to everybody but the Koreans, but does that lead to good educations?
By way of background, my alma mater is ranked about #120 in the US -- i.e., second or third tier. Private, with tuition in the $30k range. I think that I got a good education.
Yes and Yes, but then I didnt attend university in America, I just worked there. Although the sample size is limited to 4 universities (1 canadian, 2 swedish, 1 american) I can say that I've been less than impressed with the graduate students in the american universities (who're mostly americans) compared to other countries - especially the level of knowledge and experience when entering grad school.
My last quarter in college I paid $183 in tuition. Yep...college used to be an affordable thing...
Well truth be told $183 inflation adjusted since 400BC is quite a bit of cash in todays dollars. I don't care if your professor was Socrates or not thats still a huge bit of coin. (like $9.0+ *10 to the 27th power assuming 3 percent inflation i.e. more than the entire world economies put together)
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I went to the state school in New Jersey (Rutgers) and tuition was $12,000 a year (that's not a typo). Though I had $5,000 scholarship.
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Undergrad gave me a chance to grow up and got me a entry pass to better things. But so far as getting a good education? Naw, not really.
At that time, I wanted to be a writer, so I took a lot of writing classes...which took me a least ten years to unlearn. IMHO, a college degree just shows you're willing to eat sh|t for years on end, a quality most employers are looking for in their recruits.
Part of the problem might have been me. I was one of the faceless hoards that finishes high school and goes onto college just because I was out of high school, and once you're out of high school, you're expected to go to college. Big whoop.
Grad school was much better. I went there years later because I wanted to. I had a goal and a reason for being there. I also learn a lot of stuff that was applicable to my later life.
Originally posted by Spec
I nerver went to a university. I went to CEGEP. Same as college in the states right?
Spec.
Americans tend to use the words college and university interchangably but the reality is a college tend to focus mainly on teaching students while a university focuses mainly on research & just happens to teach students in order to pay the bills.
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Americans tend to use the words college and university interchangably but the reality is a college tend to focus mainly on teaching students while a university focuses mainly on research & just happens to teach students in order to pay the bills.
This is not really the case. There are colleges in a Unversity, like the College of Engineering or the College of Business or the College of Medicine.
JM
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From what I have seen, in the US, the word University is used (when refering to an institution) instead of College, when Post Graduate Degrees are offered (like Masters or Doctorate).
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subschool of a university (synonym for faculty of engineering etc)
college of physicians, cardinals etc
technical school
at british universities colleges are associations of students within the university. My friend attended Oxford to get his Math PhD and he was in "St. John's College", IIRC
And in the old days, some groups of monks were called "colleges"
Several of those are related, and are similiar to my earlier statement (about their being a college of engineering/business/medicine/etc in my universtity).
JM
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