US Iraq war rising up the rankings...

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Seeker
I find it difficult to believe that Iraq has as many casualties as the Napoleonic era bloodbaths of the war of 1812.

I didn't think that there were that many AMERICAN casualties in the War of 1812.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by CyberShy
The Iraq war wasn't started because of WMD but because of regime change. The current situation in Iraq would have started ANY MOMENT after Sadam would've been gone. Sooner or later.

Wrong, cuz the Ba'athist state would have continued to exist, even if the generals whacked Husseins sadistic sons. It wasn't toppling Saddam that made the situation in Iraq, it was destroying the state. It was like unlocking a pressure cooker with a full head of steam, rather than letting it bleed off first. Just another example of the colossal incompetence of this administration.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Seeker
I find it difficult to believe that Iraq has as many casualties as the Napoleonic era bloodbaths of the war of 1812.

There wasn't much actual fighting in the war of 1812. At least not by the poofter Brits. The whole burning Washington thing was grossly overrated, and if HMS Shannon hadn't defeated USS Chesapeake, what would the Brits have had to show for it? It's a good thing for them they spent most of their time fighting the French.

[chequita guevara]

US too, as scrappy as we were, I don't think we could have withstood the full might of the British Empire. We'd probably have had everything East of the Appalchians and Florida stripped from us.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Re: US Iraq war rising up the rankings...

Originally posted by MOBIUS
I'm surrounded by MtG's...

Sorry honey, no matter how hard you try, you still can't be my b i t c h.

[chequita guevara]

Uhm, Mike, where did you find that quote?

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Uhm, Mike, where did you find that quote?

His location field.

[chequita guevara]

The one place I didn't look, cuz I don't care where he is.

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
There wasn't much actual fighting in the war of 1812. At least not by the poofter Brits. The whole burning Washington thing was grossly overrated, and if HMS Shannon hadn't defeated USS Chesapeake, what would the Brits have had to show for it? It's a good thing for them they spent most of their time fighting the French.

Yep, amidst MtG's BS lies the truth - the USA only exists because of the continued intervention of the French during the 18th and 19th centuries.

Must be really humiliating to know you owe your country to 'a bunch of cheese eating surrender-monkeys'...

Either way, it is still significant that more soldiers have died in Iraq, than during a co-ordinated (albeit poorly) attack on the US mainland.

Originally posted by Commie Guevara
Uhm, Mike, where did you find that quote?

He knows damned well - I changed the 'idiots' part to 'MtGs' after I forced him to eat humble pie (again!) in a thread and he spat his dummy out and launched into a particularly entertaining stream to personal insults...

Needless to say, plenty of other posters noted his blatant hypocrisy as a Mod/ex Mod whatever, without my even having to prompt them. Truly not one of his most glorious moments, and something I shall remind him of whenever he feels the need to bring it up.

[Robert]

Originally posted by VJ

rewriting history

Bush talked about regime change allready before 9/11.
Of course have the USA tried everything to get the europeans on the bandwagon, and therefor they tried to prove that saddam had WMD. But the WMD were not the reason for Bush to go to war.

[Robert]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

Originally posted by CyberShy
The Iraq war wasn't started because of WMD but because of regime change. The current situation in Iraq would have started ANY MOMENT after Sadam would've been gone. Sooner or later.

Wrong, cuz the Ba'athist state would have continued to exist, even if the generals whacked Husseins sadistic sons. It wasn't toppling Saddam that made the situation in Iraq, it was destroying the state. It was like unlocking a pressure cooker with a full head of steam, rather than letting it bleed off first. Just another example of the colossal incompetence of this administration.

You think that the Ba'athists, a hated minority, would be able to rule Iraq forever? Ok, even if it would continue a little longer, like North Korea didn't end with the death of Kim Il Sun, one day it would collapse and this war would have started.

Most, if not all, free nations have earned this freedom through war. Unfortunately.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by MOBIUS
Yep, amidst MtG's BS lies the truth - the USA only exists because of the continued intervention of the French during the 18th and 19th centuries.

You poofters couldn't hold on to the rest of your empire - we didn't need the frogs, it was just convenient for the timing. '81, '83, '89 - sooner or later, you would have gotten tired of your troops getting shot up for some colonies who were tired of your oppression and incompetence.

And this is the 21st century now, baby, and the former colonial masters are now the lap dogs. Tell me, does your PM feel a little bump in his buns every time he hops in his master's lap?

Must be really humiliating to know you owe your country to 'a bunch of cheese eating surrender-monkeys'...

The cheese eating surrender-monkeys ran your asses in circles back then too, but they needed a Corsican leader to do it. Something about an army of rabbits led by a lion, if I recall...

Oh, and sprechen Sie Deutsch? If you want to go back in time, we had to bail your asses out twice last century. O how the mighty have fallen - empire and colonial masters, to begging for help, to being obedient poodles.

Either way, it is still significant that more soldiers have died in Iraq, than during a co-ordinated (albeit poorly) attack on the US mainland.

The only thing significant is the demonstration of your ignorance in comparing a low intensity distant war involving smoothbore muskets and horse drawn solid shotl artillery to modern insurgent warfare with fully automatic weapons and man-portable high explosives.

He knows damned well - I changed the 'idiots' part to 'MtGs' after I forced him to eat humble pie (again!)

Hasn't happened for the first time, let alone "again" except in your imagination - remember, "one pill makes you larger, one pill makes you small..." You can try to deny it all you want, but the location field makes you look like a sycophant fanboy. Sad really, but not surprising, in how you mirror your country's pathetic stance as a US lackey. Poodle, or is that Bichon Frise?

and launched into a particularly entertaining stream to personal insults...

I'm glad you were entertained. I was.

Needless to say, plenty of other posters noted his blatant hypocrisy as a Mod/ex Mod whatever, without my even having to prompt them.

What hypocrisy? I haven't been a mod for months. Even when I was a mod, I wasn't required or asked to change my posting. Ban, shman, I don't give a ****.

Truly not one of his most glorious moments, and something I shall remind him of whenever he feels the need to bring it up.

Nothing that happens on an internet forum even qualifies to enter the field as one of my "most glorious" moments. Maybe you need to get more of a life?

[SlowwHand]

Mobius sucks. That's just established fact. Move on.

[MichaeltheGreat]

I know, but it's kind of like pouring salt on a slug, albeit without harming such a high and endearing form of life.

[SlowwHand]

Point well-made.