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    Biggest scam in EVE Online history

    Most EVE Online players probably heard about the GHSC infiltration incident, when a group of agents worked for one of the most successful corporations in the game, spending over a year undercover to gain the trust of the members, who eventually granted them access to the corp hangars. What followed was one of the most incredible heists in MMORPG history, as the group stole over 30 billion ISK from the corporation as well as destroying the leader's ships and escape pods.

    The community uproar was big and sparked one of the most interesting debates in regard to MMOs: In a fully open-ended game, with a player-driven economy and politics, should the developers step in and intervene when extreme things like this happen? Make no mistake, as cool as it sounds for outsiders and while the victims weren't innocents either, the work of GHSC ruined the efforts of many gamers who spent hundreds and thousands of hours in EVE trying to build up wealth and technology.

    Now the community has barely had time to calm down and here it is, the next incident that easily surpasses the numbers GHSC achieved with their heist. It's the story of a guy named "cally", who ran a corporation, a player-operated bank called "Eve Intergalactic Bank". Over the course of four months, hundreds of players deposited money in his bank, which offered interest, loans and insurance like every other ordinary bank. Except for the fact that one day, cally decided to grab all the money that was deposited and fly off to space with an alleged total sum of 790 billion Isk. In real life, this would translate to \$170,000 - quite possibly the biggest MMO scam ever conducted.

    Not only that, he also took the time to record a video in which he confesses his crimes, makes fun of the community, and reveals that he is a pirate, who once held the highest bounty in the game.

    No doubt this event will once again make the rounds on mainstream gaming sites as well, and it's time for your opinion on this. Do you think scams like this one make the game more compelling and more realistic? Or is it just a punch in the face for all the gamers just wanting to have fun, an unnecessary display of ego by someone who perhaps isn't successful in real life? We're very interested in your comments.


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  • #2
    You play that?

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    • #3
      Its not like they did anything wrong per say from the strictest interpretation of the game. Frankly, I see a market opening for someone to run a recovery operation to hunt down people who run off with stuff.

      Or the need for the players to create a binding legal system with enforcement abilities
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      • #4
        I think it would be difficult to track the guy down ingame if he didnt want to be found. he can always start a new account. he will lose his skill training, but he could buy a highly trained character with a fraction of that money

        I wouldnt give a large amount of isk to some random dude, no matter what his reputation. I was iffy about buying a corp jump clone contract for 25mil isk (about £3 spread amongst the corp) and the corp we bought that from has expensive stations and assets would could take revenge on.

        and, this is an other game, isnt it?
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        • #5
          Its easy for the money to disappear untraceably (untraceable for players, at least).
          I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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          • #6
            EVE online has a lot of features that have been missing in most MMORPGs (good economic system and a lack of repetitive camping to gain levels), however from what I hear the gameplay is pretty slow-paced and can be a little boring...
            Stop Quoting Ben

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            • #7
              Re: Biggest scam in EVE Online history

              Originally posted by MarkG
              the work of GHSC ruined the efforts of many gamers who spent hundreds and thousands of hours in EVE trying to build up wealth and technology.
              heh

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              • #8
                The devs running the higher level scam will want to act to eliminate these people that are in effect stealing from them

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                • #9
                  Yeah, EVE is a good game but you do have towatch out for scams. I hadn't heard of this one though.

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                  • #10
                    Why is this not in other games?
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                    • #11
                      We do have an EVE thread there.

                      Another heist: http://www.mmodig.com/?p=155

                      JM
                      (but this one made by a dedicated assasin)
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DinoDoc
                        Why is this not in other games?
                        Because Eve has a more developed economic system.
                        Stop Quoting Ben

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                        • #13
                          the problem with these games is there is no police force. It's every man for themselves.

                          Many of these people deserve what happened to them. It's like the old west. You have to cover your own ass. There is no "law" to back you up.

                          And this is a major failing of mmorpg's. And why player killers are such a problem.

                          not to mention mmorpg's are stupid.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bosh
                            Why is this not in other games?

                            Because Eve has a more developed economic system.
                            The Other Games forum. A mod should move this thread to where it belongs. It clutters the OT.
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                            • #15
                              Wow. I don't know what this game is, but it sounds even more sad than typical MMOs.
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