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  • Mexican lawmakers block Fox's speech

    By JULIE WATSON, Associated Press Writer
    46 minutes ago

    MEXICO CITY -
    Vicente Fox was forced to forego the last state-of-the-nation address of his presidency Friday after leftist lawmakers stormed the stage of Congress to protest disputed July 2 elections.

    It was the first time in modern Mexican history a president hasn't given the annual address to Congress. Instead, Fox handed in a written copy of his report, and his office said he would address the nation in a televised speech later Friday.

    A text of the speech Fox had planned to deliver to Congress called on Mexico to mend deep divisions that he said threatened the country's newfound democracy.

    "Whoever attacks our laws and institutions also attacks our history and Mexico," he said, a thinly veiled reference to leftist presidential candidate Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador.

    The opposition lawmakers took over the stage in Congress, waving Mexican flags and holding placards calling Fox a traitor to democracy. They ignored demands that they return to their seats, shouting "Vote by Vote" — a rallying cry for Lopez Obrador's bid for a full recount in the election.

    They raised up leather-bound copies of the Mexican Constitution and flashed the victory sign. Fox left without entering the congressional chamber and the session was adjourned.

    The standoff came six days before the top electoral court must declare a president-elect or annul the July 2 vote and order a new election. So far, rulings have favored ruling party candidate Felipe Calderon, who was ahead by about 240,000 votes in the official count.

    Lopez Obrador has already said he won't recognize the electoral court's decision, and he plans to create a parallel government and rule from the streets.

    Fearing violent protests, authorities earlier surrounded Congress for up to 10 blocks with multiple layers of steel barriers; attack dogs in cages, ready to be released; water cannons; and riot police in full protective gear. Entire neighborhoods were sealed off, preventing some of the city's sprawling markets from opening, and nearby subway stations were shut down.

    Police used mirrors and dogs to inspect cars for explosives before allowing them to pass, and opposition lawmakers said police even tried to prevent them from arriving despite their credentials. Some said they were pushed and shoved by authorities.

    "It's completely militarized around here. It is completely illegal, unconstitutional," Democratic Revolution congressman Cuauhtemoc Sandoval told The Associated Press. "Vicente Fox started out as a president, and is finishing up as a dictator."

    Many had feared the deepening political turmoil over the election to replace Fox could explode into violence, but Lopez Obrador called on his supporters to remain peacefully gathered in Mexico City's Zocalo plaza, instead of marching on Congress as they had previously planned.

    "We aren't going to fall into any trap," he told tens of thousands who waited in a driving rain to hear him speak.

    Lawmakers from each party opened the session with speeches, many of which criticized Fox and listed his lack of accomplishments.

    "Vicente Fox is a traitor to democracy, and even worse, he's leaving the country having turned it into a powder keg," said Edgardo Cantu of the Labor Party, part of Lopez Obrador's coalition.

    The tense situation was a far cry from the optimism and enthusiasm that followed Fox's victory six years ago. That election ended 71 years of one-party rule and prompted the world to declare Mexico a true democracy.

    Protesters occupying Mexico City's center said they were ready to do whatever it takes to support Lopez Obrador. Fernando Calles, a 26-year-old university professor, said he was ready to fight for the former Mexico City mayor "until the death, until the final consequences."

    "We lived 500 years of repression, and now we represent the new face of Mexico," he said.

    The tight election left the nation deeply divided, with Lopez Obrador — who portrayed himself as a champion of the poor — alleging that fraud accounted for an official count showing him 0.6 percent behind Calderon.

    Fox, a former Coca-Cola executive, ushered in economic stability and brought inflation to record lows, but he has been unable to secure a migration accord with the U.S. or significantly reduce poverty.
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    Obrador seems to be Al Gore x2 with a little contempt for democracy and the rule of law thrown in.
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    • #3
      Yeah, cuz letting an election be stolen is the height of respect for democracy and respect for the rule of law.
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      • #4
        Except that he isn't be able to prove that. Sometimes people actually do loose elections by getting less votes.
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        • #5
          And sometimes they get less votes because of vote fraud, as happened in Mexico, again!
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          • #6
            Sometimes yes. Do you have proof?
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            • #7
              You should have shared your evidence with Obrador then. He might have had a better day in court then.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by OzzyKP
                Sometimes yes. Do you have proof?
                The PRD does, and they've presented it to the election court.
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                • #9
                  The stations they challenged were insufficent to change the outcome, che. The sounds like petulant whining about loosing an election.
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                  • #10
                    So apparently the electoral court, which from all accounts that I've read is a well-respected institution, is wrong when it says there's no significant evidence of fraud?

                    Based on that, what those Mexican lawmakers did today was childish at best and, at worst, an insult and deliberate slap in the face to true democracy. Insofar as I'm concerned, the leftists/populists there are bordering on just being as bad with respect to elections as our own homegrown authoritarian-minded right-wingers.

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                    • #11
                      I wonder if those who pose as the "upholders of the rule of law" in this case, felt the same when the "Orange Revolution" was taking place in Ukraine, or similar "revolutions" took place in other former Soviet republics such as Georgia.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gatekeeper
                        So apparently the electoral court, which from all accounts that I've read is a well-respected institution, is wrong when it says there's no significant evidence of fraud?

                        Based on that, what those Mexican lawmakers did today was childish at best and, at worst, an insult and deliberate slap in the face to true democracy. Insofar as I'm concerned, the leftists/populists there are bordering on just being as bad with respect to elections as our own homegrown authoritarian-minded right-wingers.

                        Gatekeeper
                        On the contrary, I think their intentions are more serious. They intend to overthrow the "government" of Mexico. Stay tuned.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by techumseh
                          I wonder if those who pose as the "upholders of the rule of law" in this case, felt the same when the "Orange Revolution" was taking place in Ukraine, or similar "revolutions" took place in other former Soviet republics such as Georgia.
                          I correctly predicted that the Orange revolution was a corrupt fraud, and I agree with DD about the Mexican election. Obrador lost, he should get over it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            The stations they challenged were insufficent to change the outcome, che.


                            That was the preliminary findings in July. The big hearing is still going on right now.
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                            • #15
                              At any rate, in spite of Fox's efforts, it would seem that NAFTA isn't the answer for Mexico either.
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