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Originally posted by GePap
Make a complaint.
Make a complaint.
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Well, if gay porn would have freaked him out...it's not against the law for your BF and yourself to hold a conversation with each other to pass the time while they're searching, is it? In a fairly loud voice? Discussing, in intimate detail, the stuff you once saw on this incredible porn imported from Germany, with MIDGETS and BALL GAGS and RON JEREMY SHAVING HIS SCROTUM over some guy's MOUTH and...hey, officers, are you done searching already?Comment
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In a rural backwater, it might not be the best idea to discuss your raging homosexuality with people who have guns and can make every shred of evidence you existed disappear.
Generally, it's a lot easier and much less of a pain in the ass to ascede to power than to fight for your rights. Most of the time, as when I was surrounded by cops cuz I accidentally dressed like an anarchist while a protest was going on nearby, it's such a minor thing, just let them see the kitter liter and go on your way, rather than spend a few days in jail on some BS charge.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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They live in Canada. Nobody would ever know they existed anyway. Duh.Comment
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The search was entirely unreasonable. You should not have consented to it, but it's also entirely understandable that you did.~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~Comment
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SNAP!Originally posted by Elok
They live in Canada. Nobody would ever know they existed anyway. Duh.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Well, it's true. I'm still adjusting to the idea that people live there, and I've been talking with them online for years now.Comment
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Agree.Originally posted by GePap
Make a complaint.Comment
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Go with the flow. Spoken like a true commie.
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I ain't got time to go to jail.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Unreasonable search? No. You gave them permission.
Probable cause (for pulling you over), this is where its a little fishy. You are probably right in that they wanted to search your car because of all the covered stuff and gave some BS reason to pull you over, but the search was ligitimate. I'm sorry Asher, but it all comes down to you signing the form. Go with what Sloww said. If they ask, say no. The only reason they ask is because they see no outward reason for a search.
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Wait? You're posting from work?Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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I understand they needed my consent to search.
I also understand if I didn't get my consent he'd likely "reconsider" his warning on the "plate issue" and/or follow me and write another absurd ticket, as he knew full well I live FAR away from that part of the province and will absolutely not return to fight it.
So, yes, I do understand it is a "legit" search in that I signed the form. What I also understand is it's a bit of a bullying act because you know they're not just going to shrug and let you go and say "have a nice day" after they waste ~15-20 minutes of two officers time and obviously have a suspicion of the contents of your car. I can easily see them finding another excuse of pulling me over, etc."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Two issues:Originally posted by Donegeal
Unreasonable search? No. You gave them permission.
Probable cause (for pulling you over), this is where its a little fishy. You are probably right in that they wanted to search your car because of all the covered stuff and gave some BS reason to pull you over, but the search was ligitimate. I'm sorry Asher, but it all comes down to you signing the form. Go with what Sloww said. If they ask, say no. The only reason they ask is because they see no outward reason for a search.
Bah... I'll right more when I get back from work. I gotta get going.
1. The pretext stop. Asher has a right to make a complaint about that, if he really believes that there was no valid reason for the officer to stop his vehicle. (assuming there is an authority that would handle such a complaint about a procedural issue)
2. While Asher did consent, you could argue that it was not good faith consent because it was granted under the "threat" of a summons. Consent should be a good faith consent for it to be valid. How reasonable Asher's belief that he was under the threat of a summons would be the sticking point.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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