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  • #16
    So was Plame a NOC agent? the government never came out and said so. It could be that she isn't, and no prosecution, or that she was and they don't want to further advertise the fact by executing people.

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    • #17
      Yes, Virginia, there is NO Fitzmas.

      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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      • #18
        I am concerned that this maybe just speculation designed to sell more copies of that book.
        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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        • #19
          That makes no sense. Picking a noncontroversial figure intended to sell more copies. Face it the only people who were going to buy the Isikoff, Corn book were Bush haters. The vast majority of the US was "who cares". Implicating someone other than Rove, Cheney, or other dastardly figure in the administration is a huge anitclimactic event guaranteed to be a downer to the only audience this book was going to have, namely the haters.
          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Oerdin
            I am concerned that this maybe just speculation designed to sell more copies of that book.
            Can't handle the fact it isn't Rove?
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #21
              Originally posted by lord of the mark
              not much interest in this huh? No eevil neocons at fault. No more discussion of the greatest piece of treason in years huh?

              Hitchens has a good piece on it

              http://www.slate.com/id/2148555/
              Another excellent perspective-piece by Hitchens. The liberal bobbleheads who stoked this non-issue and those that continue to distort the facts are simply pathetic.
              We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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              • #22
                I must say that Armitage and Powell seem to be a grade A asses if this is true. Letting people spend Lord knows how much in lawyers fees defending themselves and even 1 person be indicted all to cover thier own ass.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #23
                  I don't look at it like that. They made a mistake, they reported it to the WH, and then it was a circle-the-wagons exercise. It was a non-issue from the beginning, so it wouldn't have been right for Powell and Armitage to take heat on this. The lawyers fees and stuff are just the price of doing business nowadays.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #24
                    The lawyers fees and stuff are just the price of doing business nowadays.

                    Seriously though why? Clearly Fitzgerald knew early on in the investigation who the leaker was. He likewise made the determination that no law was broken. Why the continued investigation? It almost appears as if the intent of the investigation was to purposely set snares to trip up anyone with inconsistent memories of events. In this case Libby gets the award for "most dubious memory." His prize is a perjury trial. Perjury associated with an investigation where no law was apparently broken and whats more was understood early on in the investigation.
                    "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                    “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                    • #25
                      To be honest, I don't know why Fitzgerald is continuing this, but it's possible that Libby's memory was a lot more dubious than we know, and Fitzgerald thought that Libby flouting his investigative authority needed to be punished (for the good of the system or whatever).
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #26
                        Still waiting for Novak to be charged.....



                        Ogie: Fix your quote - it isn't accurate.
                        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                        • #27
                          Fixed.
                          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                          • #28


                            Thanks, it has been nagging at me for awhile. I even checked the quote myself thinking I was in error.

                            Actually, sounds better the way you had it....
                            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                            • #29
                              Armitage was only one of Novak's sources, but it is confirmed.
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe



                                Seriously though why? Clearly Fitzgerald knew early on in the investigation who the leaker was. He likewise made the determination that no law was broken. Why the continued investigation? It almost appears as if the intent of the investigation was to purposely set snares to trip up anyone with inconsistent memories of events. In this case Libby gets the award for "most dubious memory." His prize is a perjury trial. Perjury associated with an investigation where no law was apparently broken and whats more was understood early on in the investigation.
                                I am sympathetic to both Mr Libby and Bill Clinton. Perjury traps suck.
                                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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