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Look I apologize for saying idiot, but you should know better.
This isn't about Chinese culture. It's about a religious practice, one that a lot of Chinese people do not practice, particularly on the mainland where the Communists banned a lot of this religious mumble-jumble.
Saying Chinese culture is stubborn is wrong and a stereotype.
Claiming that Western culture is more enlightened when it comes to religious practices is BS. Christmas trees are hardly environmentally friendly, and neither is the pile of discarded Christmas wrapping paper.
And for the record, I don't like people burning joss paper, particularly when they do it in stairwells of my building. The problem is that it is a religious practice and we try to ban it, people will be up in arms.
christmas trees are a pagan tradition co-opted by christianity to gain more converts. its adapting to the situation not being stubborn.
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Originally posted by Sn00py
I wonder how many tree's are cut down just so they can burn paper and send toxic fumes into the air to scare away ghosts that don't exist?
Trees are a renewable resource, petrol is not.
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Originally posted by MRT144
christmas trees are a pagan tradition co-opted by christianity to gain more converts. its adapting to the situation not being stubborn.
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Certainly it is not adopting a more environmentally friendly practice.
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Certainly it is not adopting a more environmentally friendly practice.
does the sky remain sooty for 24 hours a day in China or the standard 1800's manchester measure?
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'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
Certainly it is not adopting a more environmentally friendly practice.
Actually, it is becoming one ... we now a) grow trees specifically for this (reforesting, essentially) as christmas trees grow pretty quickly; and b) many people now have 'living' christmas trees that they either reuse each year, or buy for a year then plant either in their yard or in a soon-to-be foresty area somewhere.
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Originally posted by MRT144
does the sky remain sooty for 24 hours a day in China or the standard 1800's manchester measure?
I don't know, you tell me.
(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."
Originally posted by DrS
Isn't that a time-scale dependant statement?
What does it matter, if your scale is big enough?
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(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."
next time a cloud of soot from china comes our way i will
"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
People who were born in Singapore and whose ancestors came from China a long time ago are "Chinese" according to this thread. They then engage in religious practices generally gone from their "native" China, so they are "stupid Chinese" polluters. Boy, do we need to start this thread over in a more generous vein.
Burning joss paper constantly over several days will undoubtably cause a pain in the nose worth protesting. Namecalling will get you a caning in "enlightened" Singapore.
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Having lived in Singapore all my life, unlike, Sn00py, I have to say that things are much better these days than when I was a kid.
I'm living right in the middle of one of the older neighbourhoods (Bedok), yet it seems that the burning is much more controlled these days (e.g. people use the bins and receptacles that have been provided by the town councls for the purpose).
Giant Joss paper sticks used to be common sight everywhere, but these days they are are rarer.
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