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    Arun Shourie recently gave a speech at the IISC Bangalore ( the premier institute in the country for research ) on Equality of Opportunity .

    A bit of the background :

    The Mandal Commission

    In India , the Scheduled Castes and Tribes have been given a fixed percentage of the seats in educational institutions ( including privately owned and run ones - a gross violation of both the Constution and property rights ) . These reservations were implemented ( with much opposition from the top leaders of the time ) at the time of Indian independence to help the educationally and socially backward SCs and STs , and make them competetive with the normal castes . This was supposed to be restricted to ten years .

    But politicians , in order to garner votes from these castes , kept on extending these reservations , and they exist even now , and the politicians of the moment saying that to garner even more votes , they will be extending these reservations to other , non-discriminated castes ( the ones who were traditionally not discriminated against , but remained backward because they enjoyed a high social standing in the villages and therefore did not come to the cities ) called the Other Backward Castes .

    The data they use for this reservation is from the 1931 census - because no census after that has enumerated caste as a category . They forget that at that time , India included Pakistan , Burma , Sri Lanks , Nepal , and Bangladesh .

    A link to the speech : Google Video .

    It's rather long , but well worth watching .

    In it , he advocates absolutely secular criterion for deciding who should get aid - economic criterion , mostly - and advocates that the unit of deciding who should get help and who should not should be the individual . He advocates that there be on discrimination on the basis of caste , race , language , residence , gender , or religion .

    I'd like to ask your opinions on this issue - and I don't want general opinions , I want you , the reader , to actually watch the speech , and only then comment .

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    I didn't watch the speech (can't, my PC has no speakers), but when I read the title of this thread I was thinking hotel reservations. Do those exist? I mean, are there big, old-fashioned Indian hotels that require you to prove you're a designated caste to stay in a room, so that they can claim to be "kosher" for all their guests? Not sure what the correct term is, but you'd figure there'd be a sales draw in being able to guarantee a bed which nobody from the gutter-cleaner caste has ever slept in. Et cetera...
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      Originally posted by Elok
      I didn't watch the speech (can't, my PC has no speakers), but when I read the title of this thread I was thinking hotel reservations. Do those exist? I mean, are there big, old-fashioned Indian hotels that require you to prove you're a designated caste to stay in a room, so that they can claim to be "kosher" for all their guests? Not sure what the correct term is, but you'd figure there'd be a sales draw in being able to guarantee a bed which nobody from the gutter-cleaner caste has ever slept in. Et cetera...
      No , there are no such hotels in India . Even the concept is disgusting .

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        No offense, but I am utterly uninformed about the current state of the caste system in India, so the import of the video would be lost on me. You will have to educate.
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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