On this day 200 years ago: The dissolution of the HRE.

[Heresson]

both

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Some people carry nostalgia too far. The HRE was a product of the medieval era and simply had no reason to continue existing.

I dunno. I always did out-****ing-standing as them in MTW

[BeBMan]

Let's hope Babarossa returns soon form the Kyffhäuser and saves Germany

[Ecthy]

Barbarossa was doomed to fail from the beginning.

[Harovan]

Originally posted by BeBro
Let's hope Babarossa returns soon form the Kyffhäuser and saves Germany

Can he be worse than Schröder or Merkel? No way!

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by Ecthy
You think I should have put the proper name of the thing int othe title? Why?

Ecthy's got a point, there. Better the abbreiation than "Das Heilige Römische Reich Deutscher Nation" or whatever it was. It's that unhealthy German obsession with really long words and longer phrases.

But still, I raised a glass for the Reich. Though it was a Guinness...

Oh, and shameless HRE plug.

[Barnabas]

It was neither holy nor roman

;P

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
It was neither holy nor roman;P

They held on to Rome for longer than the Byzantines did, so at least they've got a better claim to "Roman" than the Eastern Roman Empire...

[Barnabas]

True, the byzantines were a bunch of greeks!

But the papacy is the descendant of the roman empire

:P

When the roman empire fell the roman bishop became the ruler of the city, later the ruler officially with the Papal states, he kept the pontifex maximus title, and the use of latin.

So, the vatican = roman empire

[Heresson]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
It was neither holy nor roman

;P

...nor empire

Voltaire's words

Byzantines were Romans.

[Ecthy]

Originally posted by Cyclotron
Oh, and shameless HRE plug.

I remember I once offered to join one of those but then never returned.