Iraqi cleric demands cease-fire in Lebanon

[dannubis]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Wake up every morning surrounded by countries wanting you to be history, then talk.

Killing terrorist preemptively when they are children

Long term vision

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Bah, this guy, the UN, and a bunch of other nobody gives a flip abouts have all asked for a ceasefire. Until someone with clout, like maybe Wal-Mart, starts calling for it I don't see it happening.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Well you have to admit that this seems to have been a half-assed attempt by the Israelis at attaining thier stated goal. Relying to this extent on air power never works add to that thier reluctance to put the boots on the ground to actually do the real work of damaging Hezbollah and you get this mess. Olmert would have been better off with a smaller scale retaliation if he wasn't willing to do what he said needed to be done.

Well Israel is often criticised for being indecisive.

They want to hurt Hezbullah, but they don't want to jeopardize soldiers so they rely on an air campaign.

Accidents occur and Hezbullah doesn't die, so Israel decides to drop the air campaign and send in some troops without proper aerial support instead, to the largest Hezbullah stronghold reachable.

8 Israeli soldiers die.

DOH!!

Israeli decision makers are known to be hesitant and change their minds very often, going from one radically wrong idea to the other.

You can't defeat a dug up guerilla enemy by mere air campaign, unless you're willing to napalm huge areas.

On the other hand, you can't defeat a dug up guerilla in its own territory without losses, if you don't have enough recoinassanse and airpower.

I actually think that given the circumstances, IDF soldiers are doing a marvelous job.


But as Peres said in a cabinet meeting a few days ago: "Make up your mind. Either we're at full scale war to destroy Hezbullah - and then lets roll out everything we've got; or we ultimately want to reach the negociating table, in which case we should carefully choose our strategy".

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Wake up every morning surrounded by countries wanting you to be history, then talk.

I can count only one (Syria).

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Wake up every morning surrounded by countries wanting you to be history, then talk.

What, Mexico and Canada?

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Cort Haus


What, Mexico and Canada?

Don't forget Cuba! Cuba hates us too!

[Heresson]

Originally posted by PLATO
This is a bad precedent actually.

Al-Sistani has been an "ally" of the US in trying to bring peace to Iraq. The fact that he lived in Tehran for years while Sadam was in power was swept under the table. Now, it appears, he really does hve Iranian masters....

and he is a spokesman of the axis of evil, right?

[SlowwHand]

As I've tried to remind you, it was Iraq scudding Israel in the Gulf War. I realize Iraq is just a suckup to Syria, Syria's b*tch as it were, but they still were the one's launching.

[Heresson]

huh?

[SlowwHand]

quote:
Originally posted by SlowwHand
Wake up every morning surrounded by countries wanting you to be history, then talk.

Originally posted by LordShiva


I can count only one (Syria).

[Qilue]

Originally posted by LordShiva
I can count only one (Syria).

Santa is making a list of those who are either actively supportive, vocally supportive or covertly supportive.

Syria
Jordan
Saudi Arabia
Kuwait
Yemen
Iran
Egypt
Lybia

Possibley a few others, but essentially the entire arab world. Those arab leaders who make peace or try to make peace with Israel tend to get a visit from the local extremists.

[Heresson]

I'm sure everyday children wake up in Tel Aviv screaming:
mommy! I've had a nightmare! Yemen and Kuweit want to destroy us!

[SlowwHand]

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Qilue


Santa is making a list of those who are either actively supportive, vocally supportive or covertly supportive.

Syria
Jordan
Saudi Arabia
Kuwait
Yemen
Iran
Egypt
Lybia

Possibley a few others, but essentially the entire arab world. Those arab leaders who make peace or try to make peace with Israel tend to get a visit from the local extremists.

Jordan and Egypt are allies of Israel. They've been at peace with Israel for more than 30 years.

Kuwait? Yemen? Herresson put it best.

Libya is hardly a neighbour. Iran is not a neighbour either.

Saudi Arabia doesn't care very much, or they'd be donating a little more than a negligible fraction of their oil money to propping up the Palestinian government.