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  • Iraqi cleric demands cease-fire in Lebanon

    What? Who the Hell is he? He better worry about his own problems.

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    BAGHDAD, Iraq -
    Iraq's top Shiite cleric Sunday demanded an immediate cease-fire in Lebanon, warning the Muslim world will "not forgive" nations that stand in the way of stopping the fighting.

    Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani issued the call following the Israeli airstrike that killed at least 56 Lebanese, mostly women and children, in the village of Qana. It was the deadliest attack in nearly three weeks of fighting.

    "Islamic nations will not forgive the entities that hinder a cease-fire," al-Sistani said, in a clear reference to the United States.

    "It is not possible to stand helpless in front of this Israeli aggression on Lebanon," he added. "If an immediate cease-fire in this Israeli aggression is not imposed, dire consequences will befall the region."

    Outrage over the Qana deaths spread beyond the Shiite community.

    President Jalal Talabani, a Sunni Kurd, expressed his "extreme anger and sorrow" over the "crime" of Qana.

    "We reiterate our solidarity with the Lebanese people in their ordeal and call for an immediate halt for the fighting," Talabani said in a statement.

    Earlier Sunday, Deputy Prime Minister Barham Saleh, also a Sunni Kurd, said the events in Lebanon will undoubtedly impact Iraq and the region.

    "Any instability in the region affects it as a whole," he told reporters.

    "From a humanitarian standpoint, as we follow what is going on there we can't but sympathize with the Lebanese people and call for stopping these military actions and targeting of civilians," he said.

    During his recent visit to Washington, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, a Shiite, came under harsh criticism from U.S. lawmakers for condemning
    Israel's offensive in Lebanon while failing to denounce Hezbollah for its attacks that provoked Israel's response.

    Several Democrats boycotted his speech to Congress on Wednesday and Democratic Party chairman
    Howard Dean called the Iraqi leader an "anti-Semite."

    But anger over the Israeli offensive has united Shiites and Sunnis at a time of sectarian divisions here.

    Al-Sistani's call is likely to heighten Iraqi public anger at the United States and create political problems for the U.S.-backed Iraqi government, which depends on the Americans for its security and survival.

    Al-Sistani, who also has a large following among Lebanon's Shiites, said "words are unable to condemn this crime that was carried out by those who got rid of all humanitarian values."

    "The size of the catastrophe in Lebanon resulting from the continuation of the Israeli aggression has reached a point that cannot tolerate more patience and we cannot stand idle toward it," al-Sistani said.

    He said it was time for the international community to "impose an immediate cease-fire and put an end to this horrific catastrophe."
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  • #2
    What? Who the Hell is he?
    Uh...the top ****te cleric in Iraq.

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    • #3
      This is a bad precedent actually.

      Al-Sistani has been an "ally" of the US in trying to bring peace to Iraq. The fact that he lived in Tehran for years while Sadam was in power was swept under the table. Now, it appears, he really does hve Iranian masters....
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      • #4
        DP
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        • #5
          Well since the region is speeding towards peace, happiness, and democracy, we should just ignore him. It's not like anything bad could happen in Iraq.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Zkribbler


            Uh...the top ****te cleric in Iraq.

            Come on, man. Give me a break ok?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by PLATO
              This is a bad precedent actually.

              Al-Sistani has been an "ally" of the US in trying to bring peace to Iraq. The fact that he lived in Tehran for years while Sadam was in power was swept under the table. Now, it appears, he really does hve Iranian masters....
              So a cleric does not want to see his fellow co-religionist being killed- that makes him an Iranian pawn? What kind of screwed up **** is that? I guess the fact the Pope has called for a cease-fire makes him an Iranian stooge as well?!?



              Oh, and where the hell was a top anti-Saddam shiite cleric supposed to live? Washington DC? Riyahd? Karachi? Jesus H. Christ.

              Oh, ans Sloww? Continuing your great crusade of being wrong? Keep it up.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by GePap
                Oh, ans Sloww? Continuing your great crusade of being wrong? Keep it up.
                Sloww is seldom wrong. He and I frequently disagree on policy, but I've learned to always listen with great interest and respect to what he has to say.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Zkribbler


                  Sloww is seldom wrong. He and I frequently disagree on policy, but I've learned to always listen with great interest and respect to what he has to say.
                  "seldom wrong"?

                  My respect and interest for an opinion is based on how informed it is.
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                  • #10
                    He was wrong about the Dallas Mavericks. That's not a good precedent.
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                    • #11
                      So, As-Sistani is basically threatening to wreck his own country if the Yanks don't reign in the Israelis?

                      I hope Shrub isn't as tempted as I'd be to oblige him.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Last Conformist
                        So, As-Sistani is basically threatening to wreck his own country if the Yanks don't reign in the Israelis?
                        Where do you get the "threatening to wreck his own country" bit??

                        Al Sistani is simply stating an obvious truth...that everyday Arabs are horrified at the carnage being visited upon the Lebonese in the Israelis' zeal to get at Hezbollah. Arabs will not soon forget this.

                        Israel is probably creating more terrorists than it is killing.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Zkribbler
                          Israel is probably creating more terrorists than it is killing.
                          No "probably" about it. They are.
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                          • #14
                            Wake up every morning surrounded by countries wanting you to be history, then talk.
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                            • #15
                              Well you have to admit that this seems to have been a half-assed attempt by the Israelis at attaining thier stated goal. Relying to this extent on air power never works add to that thier reluctance to put the boots on the ground to actually do the real work of damaging Hezbollah and you get this mess. Olmert would have been better off with a smaller scale retaliation if he wasn't willing to do what he said needed to be done.
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