Iran-Venezuela Alliance

[Kuciwalker]

No, he's setting himself up for further diplomatic isolation. Iran is Europe's enemy du jour too.

[Zkribbler]

Iran and Venezuela have allied.

Iran has taken the world's focus off its development of nuclear weapon by having its client Hezbollah attack the U.S.'s ally Isreal by seizing Israelis soldiers and rocketting Israelis cities.

The proper U.S. response should be to invade Carcacus.

[Barnabas]

You mean Caracas?

[Winston]

Could be carcass. Close enough..

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
You mean Caracas?

Yeahyeahyeah. Just invade anywhere in there.

[techumseh]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Wow, that's interesting. A theoretically christian presumably communist atheist pseudodictator joining forces with a muslim theocrat ...

I don't think you can realistically blame Bush for this one. Any superpower will have its enemies, and they will join forces in an attempt to overpower the superpower. Fortunately we Americans are not particularly worried by this pair of crazies

So many labels. So little understanding.

[germanos]

Originally posted by Heresson
Syria recognises Lebanon as an independant nation.

it does?

Will embassies be established in the respective capitals?

[Zkribbler]

Initially, the idea of a Venezuela/Iran alliance seemed pointless and slightly silly. But how about:

The Madhi Militia/Hezbollah/Venezuela/Nuclearized Iran Axis? And maybe throw in Syria and North Korea too.

Suddenly, I'm not laughing anymore.

[Sava]

[GhengisFarb™]

Woohoo! Chavez and Ahmedinejad have formed their own Crazy Nutjob club! If we can just get them to issue themselves membership cards it'll make it easier to track them.

[Az]

Yeah, well... well... YOU'VE GOT FEZ!

[Heresson]

it does?

Will embassies be established in the respective capitals?

A couple of months ago I've read in the official newspaper that they will be

Yet it took an assasination and the turning of world opinion against them before Syria finally pulled their intelligence apparatus (who was controlling the country behind the scenes) out of Lebanon.

Syria had absolutely NO gain in the said assassination. Actually, I think it may have been conducted by someone who wanted Syrians out, for it was obvious it would be blamed for it - some force inside Lebanon, or, likely, Israelis. Qui prodest?
Not Syria, obviously.

Then Hezbollah is striking at Northern Isreal with Syrian made rockets.

Taking into account the state of Syrian military equipement I've seen here, I doubt if they even can produce any weapons

An organisation that was supposed to be disarmed by UN resolution.

If America put equal effort and remembered as much about UN resolutions concerning its Israeli ally and its violations of international law, Arabs would love it and Hizb Allah had no excuse for fighting it or Israel.
There would be no extremism/fundamentalism rise, no anti-american sentiments worldwide, no 11.09., no war on terror and even more anti-american sentiments created by it. America is in a deadly spirale. Its biased politics result in hatred towards it, and this hatred is an excuse for even more biased politics.
But american politicians prefer to not to see it, because jewish electors in the most important states and great elections' dotations are more important to them than what's just and good to America and rest of the world.

If Hezbollah would have disarmed and respected Isreal's sovereignty would this be happening?

If Israel hadn't been acting the way it had been (occupations, persecutions, massacres of civilians, illegal settlings, warlike attitude), would Hizb Allah even exist?

Anytime we try to keep our a$$ on the sidelines we receive scorn from the world for not acting. When we do act we get scorn for being "Imperialistic".

because in the case of ME, american actions always mean pro-israeli actions. If You do not support Israel, it's only Israel that's angry with You. If You support Israel as You de facto do, it's not only entire Arabic and Islamic world, but also much of the western states despised by unjustice and hypocrisy of your gouverment.
You not only give Israel money uncomparable to any other state, not
only do they have access to your military technologies, but they can count on your benevolence and diplomatic support anytime they want.
How on Earth do You expect peoples of ME to have anything more than hatred and despise towards Washington?
America is not (at least much much much much less) criticised for its actions against North Korea or for defense of Albanians in Kosovo. Nor it would be criticised for its engagement in ME, if it hasn't proved itself completely biased and unreliable in this case.
And it was not always so! After ww1, Arabs actually asked USA to be given mandate over them, but not British, and definitely not the French. America, by its dumb politics, completely wasted the trust in this region it had back then.

By the way Condoleeza just canceled her trip back to the region after Isreal's obliteration of a village last night.

wow, that will teach Israel a lesson!

Oh, i haven't mentioned btw of Lukaszenko. A policeman who reported election frauds during the elections (he was from aa region inhabited in 80% by persecuted by Lukaszenko Poles, that, according to official
results, voted entirely in favour of him), disappeared without a trace.

Does anyone not recognize lebanon as an independent nation? I thought Israel was the one people didn't recognize

Lebanon was artificially cut out of Syria to please its christians and serve French interests, despite the wishes of its muslim minorities (that now became a majority). Syria always wanted to reunite with it.

Syria supports the Hezbollah rebels against the legitimate Lebanese government.

They are no "rebels"

They also support Hezbollah's armed opposition to Israel with money and presumably arms as well. It can claim whatever it wants, doesn't make it true

You can claim whatever they want, but it doesn't make it true as well.

I'm not a huge Israel supporter, but it's hard to see how Syria makes it out of this looking like anything but a terrorist supporting nation ...

Hizb Allah was borned as a terrorist org. Now it is not quite so. Syrian ministry of foreign affairs called many times to distinguish between a resistance, for that's how Hizb Allah is being seen among the Arabs, and condemned terrorist. What do You seen so "terroristic" about Hizb Allah? It has precise and limited claims and military goals. It may be seen as a guerilla, but there's a huuuuge difference between it and proper terrorist organisations carrying out attacks against civilians with no particular goal but a general hatred towards a civilisation.

Still, again, America and Israel are largely responsible for existance of such organisations.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Heresson


Syria had absolutely NO gain in the said assassination. Actually, I think it may have been conducted by someone who wanted Syrians out, for it was obvious it would be blamed for it - some force inside Lebanon, or, likely, Israelis. Qui prodest?
Not Syria, obviously.

It was obvious who would be blamed for it - well maybe not since YOU arent blaming Syria. In fact I think the response of the region, and esp of France and Saudi Arabia caught whoever planned it offguard. They expected the gain from Harirri's death to exceed the reaction, but the reaction was far greater than expected.

Given that its always possible to come up with different arguments about gain, and blame, it makes more sense to look at the actual evidence, which the UN investigator has said clearly points to Syria.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Heresson

America is not (at least much much much much less) criticised for its actions against North Korea or for defense of Albanians in Kosovo..

actually america IS criticized by Russians and Serbs for its defense of Kosovo, and by muslims for not intervening in Kosovo sooner.

[chequita guevara]

Re: Iran-Venezuela Alliance

A business investment is an alliance?