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    Dichotomy of a revalued renminbi
    By Zou Hanru (China Daily)
    Updated: 2006-07-28 06:53

    Something unprecedented happened last week. But with the world's attention focused on the Middle East crisis, it passed off almost unnoticed.
    On July 21, the renminbi (or yuan) traded at 7.9845 to the US dollar, its highest level since last year's revaluation. The new rate beat the previous post-revaluation high of 7.9850 yuan a fortnight ago.
    …….
    But some US politicians continue to claim that the yuan is undervalued, allowing China to keep its export prices artificially low. Their main concern seems to be Chinese exports, which have been rising as a result of demand from US consumers and importers.
    What they deliberately ignore is that, despite their technical and industrial superiority, US entrepreneurs have been unable to compete with their Chinese counterparts. Their contention is that "cheap" Chinese products threaten jobs in US industrial heartlands.
    China has been doing all it can to maintain a balance in global trade, which is supposed to be governed by WTO norms.
    The United States, however, seems to have a skewed view of free trade. When it comes to its own exports, it readily falls back on the WTO. But Washington pretends the WTO doesn't exist when it comes to exports from China or other developing countries, never mind its own farm subsidies. And that is precisely why the Doha round of world trade talks were suspended in Geneva on Monday.
    …..
    The United States has tried every trick in the book to stall Chinese exports. It pushed for restrictions on Chinese textile exports and had them imposed last year. That, however, has not stopped US manufacturers from alleging that the "undervalued" yuan continues to give Chinese exporters an alleged unfair advantage. They claim China's huge trade surplus of more than US$200 billion is partly a result of that, and demand that the yuan be appreciated by as much as 40 per cent.

    But China's trade surplus has also made it one of the largest buyers of US Treasury bonds which help to fund Washington's large budget deficit.
    This is where the Americans face their greatest dilemma. If the yuan were to be appreciated disproportionately, as the United States wants, then Chinese exporters may end up getting lower dollar returns. Also, many of China's overseas investors may find it much more expensive to build or buy factories on the mainland, triggering a slowdown in its rate of economic growth.
    But would this benefit the United States? A disproportionately appreciated yuan, if financed by the sales of US Treasury bonds, could trigger a run on the greenback. That, in turn, could mean higher inflation and higher interest rates in the United States a possibility that sends shivers down American spines.
    Are the Americans ready for that?
    Email: zouhr@chinadaily.com.hk
    (China Daily 07/28/2006 page4)
    Statistical anomaly.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

  • #2
    This is reminiscent of calls in the 80s that the yen was undervalued, allowing Japanese companies to undersell their American competitors.

    Well, eventually the yen rose dramatically in value... and the suddenly cash-rich Japanese companies bought up their American competitors.
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    • #3
      Re: Chinese Humour

      Something unprecedented happened last week. But with the world's attention focused on the Middle East crisis, it passed off almost unnoticed.
      I noticed.
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      • #4
        This is another example of the simplistic view of the world affairs that is shared by the Congress and the Admin : they think "As we are the strongest, we are entitled to set the rules followed by all nations, and these rules are supposed to work in our best interest". Often, competing nations adapt themselves to the new conditions resulting from the US ruling, deteriorating naturally the US advantage. If the Congress were coherent he would not accuse the exporting country of unfair competition, but rather the importing firms of unamerican trade when their chinese imports cause the fall of national industries.
        Statistical anomaly.
        The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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        • #5
          On July 21, the renminbi (or yuan) traded at 7.9845 to the US dollar, its highest level since last year's revaluation. The new rate beat the previous post-revaluation high of 7.9850 yuan a fortnight ago.
          OMG! A tiny fraction of fraction change in an exchange rate! How could I have possibly missed it! Oh what I fool am I to miss something so profounding earthshattering!

          Stupid propaganda.
          Stop Quoting Ben

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          • #6
            Damn, talk about false advertising. Nothing funny in this thread at all.

            Don't worry, I'll get this thread back on topic.

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            • #7
              Well, it is right that the revaluing of the yuan will not have that big of an impact on US exports. The rest however is UR hogwash. The real problems are the immense tariff that China places on US imports along with heavily subsidizing nearly every industry in the country under the guise of "state owned" companies. Let's not forget slave labor. However, the US does benefit from the current arrangement greatly. At least the top 5% of it does. The rest get walmarts.
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              • #8
                Actually, it hurts them and benefits us. They subsidize their stuff so we get it cheaper. Essentially, they give us extra stuff for free.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bosh

                  OMG! A tiny fraction of fraction change in an exchange rate! How could I have possibly missed it! Oh what I fool am I to miss something so profounding earthshattering!

                  Stupid propaganda.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                    Actually, it hurts them and benefits us. They subsidize their stuff so we get it cheaper. Essentially, they give us extra stuff for free.
                    How is it free when they're being paid for it?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DaShi
                      The real problems are the immense tariff that China places on US imports
                      Do you mean that the "immense tariff "is placed only on US imports, or is it placed on imports from all countries?
                      Statistical anomaly.
                      The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
                        How is it free when they're being paid for it?
                        If they give us stuff below the market value, it's the same charging full market value for most of it and giving us some extra for free.

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                        • #13
                          In the short run it benefits the USA by providing us with cheap stuff.

                          But it's not like China isn't getting benefits from it either. They get the benefit of economies of scale in producing for the US market, allowing them to make stuff for themselves cheaper also.

                          In the long run though... we already see what's happening when we have to compete for oil with Chinese consumption... sooner or later we will be competing for manufactured goods as well.

                          There's a genuine Chinese expression that wealth is hard to sustain for more than three generations. The first one remembers what it was like before getting rich, the second was raised by the first, as for the third... well... that's where the US is right now.
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                          Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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                          • #14

                            But it's not like China isn't getting benefits from it either. They get the benefit of economies of scale in producing for the US market, allowing them to make stuff for themselves cheaper also.


                            Not really the damage to the economy from tarrifs almost always exceeds any benefits.

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                            • #15
                              there's the question of who is getting the benefits vs. the damage, and how they are distributed.

                              protectionism takes place because we find it accpetable for everyone to pay a little bit more so that those who work in certain industries don't get screwed.
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                              There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
                              Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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