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  • #16
    the Polish navy
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #17
      BeBro, they're able to take out stacks of big ships, whereas light cruisers and destroyers will be a pain in the arse. In reall ife, heavy cruisers and battleships were no match against a Wolfsrudel

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Seeker
        A huge, useless boondoggle. What good is ONE carrier?


        It projects ONE power.
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        • #19
          When was it built? Maybe it was the forerunner to the invasion of the US after GB fell.
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          • #20
            '38.
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            • #21
              So it IS possible that they built it thinking that they would evenually need it for a future US invasion.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Ecthy
                I think Britain started WWII because they were afraid of German navy building.

                Discuss
                Ned? Ned? Is that you Ned? Hey guys, he's back! Ned is back! It's time for another good ol' fashion Nedaverse clusterf**k! Come on, you know you want to! It'll take our minds off of the weightier, unsolvable problems of these current days. Gaw' bless ya Ecky for bringin' our good ol' Neddie back. Ya'r a saint a' the ol' fashion kind.

                Those were British commandos who attacked the German radio sations near the Polish border in 1939 no doubt. That was probably where Commander James Bond started his career. British spies convinced Chancellor Hitler to attack Denmark and Norway using a secret MI-5 radio reciever implanted in his brain. The poor underprivileged Austrian was driven to suicide by their constant drivel of lies........... and those parasitic upperclass antisemites of Churchill's Conservative Party implanted the idea of "the final solution" in his head too.
                "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Donegeal
                  When was it built? Maybe it was the forerunner to the invasion of the US after GB fell.
                  Maybe they were thinking of replaying Jutland, but this time with a decisive win.
                  "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by siron


                    80m. Not reachable for diver noobs like me.
                    Time to put my rebreather to the test then ...
                    "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
                      Those were British commandos who attacked the German radio sations near the Polish border in 1939 no doubt. That was probably where Commander James Bond started his career. British spies convinced Chancellor Hitler to attack Denmark and Norway using a secret MI-5 radio reciever implanted in his brain. The poor underprivileged Austrian was driven to suicide by their constant drivel of lies........... and those parasitic upperclass antisemites of Churchill's Conservative Party implanted the idea of "the final solution" in his head too.
                      Bollocks.


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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tattila the Hun

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                        • #27
                          Does it have an mp3 player too?
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Albert Speer

                            It made sense IN THE PACIFIC with sea campaigns being fought over hundreds of miles of open ocean with hundreds of little islands and atols scattered about without pre-existing airfields (or even clear land to build an airfield). In Northern Europe, carriers made no sense. The ONLY practical use I could see of a German carrier was to conduct operations in northern Britain during the Battle of Britain because Me 109s at the time did not have the range for such forays. I don't believe the germans even did that, instead using land-based me 110 fighters from France/Holland and Norway.
                            You're wrong. WW2 proved that naval battles were decided by which navy had the most aircraft or the best aircraft since a ship's guns only went so far but aircraft went much further. Sure, land based air cover helps a lot but think if the Germans got a carrier battle group into the central Atlantic. There'd be no land based aircover but the recon and anti-ship activities of carrier based aircraft would be key. That's why the Allies won the battle of the Atlantic because they could cover a lot more ocean with fewer ships so it was likely they'd find the German u-boats before the U-boats had done their job.
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                            • #29
                              Also, I shudder at the thought of what a german aircraft carrier could have done to the allied convoy lines
                              "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Donegeal
                                So it IS possible that they built it thinking that they would evenually need it for a future US invasion.


                                Dude, the US is protected by the Atlantic Ocean. Even if Germany sunk the entire US navy and downed every US plane, the logistics of even maintaining a beachhead would be impossible -- transporting supplies over thousands of kilometres of open ocean is not realistic.

                                Also, why one earth would Germany have needed to invade the US for? With Russia conquered, it already would have had a ridiculous amount of land to occupy and digest. If Britain had been taken out on the islands, in North Africa, and possibly in India, then the US would have signed a peace treaty. It's impossible to wage war across an ocean any way you slice it.
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