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    Or so the DHS thinks:




    U.S. Terror Targets: Petting Zoo and Flea Market?
    By ERIC LIPTON
    Published: July 12, 2006

    WASHINGTON, July 11 — It reads like a tally of terrorist targets that a child might have written: Old MacDonald’s Petting Zoo, the Amish Country Popcorn factory, the Mule Day Parade, the Sweetwater Flea Market and an unspecified “Beach at End of a Street.”

    But the inspector general of the Department of Homeland Security, in a report released Tuesday, found that the list was not child’s play: all these “unusual or out-of-place” sites “whose criticality is not readily apparent” are inexplicably included in the official federal antiterrorism database.

    The National Asset Database, as it is known, is so flawed, said the inspector general, Richard L. Skinner, that as of January, Indiana, with 8,591 potential terrorist targets, had 50 percent more listed sites than New York (5,687) and more than twice as many as California (3,212), ranking the state the most target-rich place in the nation.

    The database is used by the Homeland Security Department to help divide the hundreds of millions of dollars in antiterrorism grants each year, including the program announced in May that cut money to New York City and Washington by 40 percent while significantly increasing spending for cities including Louisville, Ky., and Omaha.

    “We don’t find it embarrassing,” said the department’s deputy press secretary, Jarrod Agen. “The list is a valuable tool.”

    But the audit says that lower-level department officials agreed that some older information in the inventory “was of low quality and that they had little faith in it.”

    “The presence of large numbers of out-of-place assets taints the credibility of the data,” the report says.

    In addition to the petting zoo, in Woodville, Ala., and the Mule Day Parade in Columbia, Tenn., the auditors questioned many entries, including “Nix’s Check Cashing,” “Mall at Sears,” “Ice Cream Parlor,” “Tackle Shop,” “Donut Shop,” “Anti-Cruelty Society” and “Bean Fest.”

    Even people connected to some of those businesses or events are baffled at their inclusion.

    “Seems like someone has gone overboard,” said Larry Buss, who helps organize the Apple and Pork Festival in Clinton, Ill. “Their time could be spent better doing other things, like providing security for the country.”

    Angela McNabb, manager of the Sweetwater Flea Market, which is 50 miles from Knoxville, Tenn., said: “I don’t know where they get their information. We are talking about a flea market here.”

    New York City officials, who have questioned the rationale for the reduction in this year’s antiterrorism grants, were similarly blunt.

    “Now we know why the Homeland Security grant formula came out as wacky as it was,” Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said Tuesday. “This report is the smoking gun that thoroughly indicts the system.”

    The source of the problems, the audit said, appears to be insufficient definitions or standards for inclusion provided to the states, which submit lists of locations for the National Asset Database.

    New York, for example, lists only 2 percent of the nation’s banking and finance sector assets, which ranks it between North Dakota and Missouri. Washington State lists nearly twice as many national monuments and icons as the District of Columbia. Virginia lists 2,126 schools, while eight states or territories list none.

    Montana, one of the least populous states in the nation, turned up with far more assets than big-population states including Massachusetts, North Carolina and New Jersey.

    The inspector general questions whether many of the sites listed in whole categories — like the 1,305 casinos, 163 water parks, 159 cruise ships, 244 jails, 718 mortuaries and 571 nursing homes — should even be included in the tally.

    But the report also notes that the list “may have too few assets in essential areas.” It apparently does not include many major business and finance operations or critical national telecommunications hubs.

    The department does not release the list of 77,069 sites, but the report said it included 17,327 office buildings, malls, shopping centers and other commercial properties; 12,019 government facilities; 8,402 public health buildings; 7,889 power facilities; and 2,963 sites with chemical or hazardous materials.

    George W. Foresman, under secretary for preparedness at the department, said the audit misunderstood the purpose of the database, as it was an inventory or catalog of national assets, not a prioritized list of the most critical sites. The database is just one of many sources consulted in deciding antiterrorism grants. “It provides the universe from which various lists of critical assets are produced,” Mr. Foresman’s written response to the audit says.

    The inspector general recommends that the department review the list and determine which of the “extremely insignificant” assets that have been included should remain and provide better guidance to states on what to submit in the future.

    Mr. Agen, the Homeland Security Department spokesman, said that he agreed that his agency should provide better directions for the states and that it would do so in the future.

    “We are constantly making sure that our list of assets is the most accurate and most informative,” Mr. Agen said.

    One business owner who learned from a reporter that a company named Amish Country Popcorn was on the list was at first puzzled. The businessman, Brian Lehman, said he owned the only operation in the country with that name.

    “I am out in the middle of nowhere,” said Mr. Lehman, whose business in Berne, Ind., has five employees and grows and distributes popcorn. “We are nothing but a bunch of Amish buggies and tractors out here. No one would care.”

    But on second thought, he came up with an explanation. “Maybe because popcorn explodes?”
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  • #2
    Actually, if terrorist wanted to create real terror in the country, these are exactly the types of places to do it.

    Hitting places like the WTC and the Pentagon, while deeply sad, tends to piss Middle America off, not fill them with fear.

    ACK!
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Tuberski
      Actually, if terrorist wanted to create real terror in the country, these are exactly the types of places to do it.

      Hitting places like the WTC and the Pentagon, while deeply sad, tends to piss Middle America off, not fill them with fear.

      ACK!
      The terrorists have an audience to appease back home. You don;t show how you can bring the great US down on its knees by blowing up a petting zoo, or a bait shop.

      No one is going to blow up a freaking bait shop in nowheresville Indiana, except maybe someone looking for an insurance payout.
      If you don't like reality, change it! me
      "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
      "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
      "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GePap


        The terrorists have an audience to appease back home. You don;t show how you can bring the great US down on its knees by blowing up a petting zoo, or a bait shop.

        No one is going to blow up a freaking bait shop in nowheresville Indiana, except maybe someone looking for an insurance payout.
        That is their problem, try to please all the people all the time.........


        ACK!
        Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GePap


          The terrorists have an audience to appease back home. You don;t show how you can bring the great US down on its knees by blowing up a petting zoo, or a bait shop.

          No one is going to blow up a freaking bait shop in nowheresville Indiana, except maybe someone looking for an insurance payout.


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          • #6
            An evil petting zoo?
            He's got the Midas touch.
            But he touched it too much!
            Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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            • #7
              If it's being done right, anywhere in the world, it's NOT being done by the US government.

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              • #8
                As the recently unvailed plot to blow up the PATH tunnel in NYC shows Omaha should get the most anti-terror funds. I mean it isn't like DC or NYC have any national landmarks or vital economic interests.


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                • #9
                  Thanks for that end sarcasm code, Oerdin! We never would have known your intentions otherwise!
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