Is the US the biggest threat to world peace?

[PLATO]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Iran is not trying to get nuclear weapons. Don't fall for the Bushie lies.

[Zkribbler]

If I were them, I certainly want some...to scare away the Bushies if nothing else.

(Me, being tough --> )

[chequita guevara]

Oh yes, we know Iran is trying to get the bomb, just like we knew Iraq had WMDs. Of course, Iran has about 100th the necessary centrifuges to make weapons grade uranium.

Gosh, we gotta work hard to stop Iran from getting its first bomb in 2106!!!! The next thing our great great grandchildren know, the smoking gun might be a mushroom cloud over NYC.

[techumseh]

I think Iran is well on the way to getting the bomb. And why not? The country that's threatening them has it.

[Urban Ranger]

Re: Is the US the biggest threat to world peace?

Originally posted by Lancer
We were the only one with nukes at the end of WW2 and could have nuked out of existance any country that refused to submit and be occupied, but that's not what this nation is about.

Bad logic. You are assuming the US is still the country it once was.

[SlowwHand]

I'll say Yes, because if we said screw it and stayed home, resolutely, the place would cave in.

[Siavash hart]

USA is not you people and your decision . Well as much as any country is not their people and their decisions. It's all by their governments.
Well power is a threat , USA is a threat to the world and for USA the world is concluded to USA it self and any power except USA is a threat for USA . well as much as USA is concerned about it self , it's not concerned about nowhere else.
this debate is over as the the topic by USA is unfair.
As we go through the pages of history, the worst has Been always done by USA.
well in conclusion and by reference to history, it's a prove that USA is a threat to the world.

[Siavash hart]

Look at the game this way , one of the players is called winner and looser but outside the game the creator of the game earns the money . Like a casino and its people.
The casino earns the money and people inside looking for ways how to play it win it.
In another way we are being played since we dunno how much USA earns by creating war in Middle East. There are only few countries that they build guns , as it goes : Russia , USA , Israel . Well whenever there is any war those countries buy their accessories from them. So in a way those selling gun countries are the main threat to the world.

[Felch]

Witchcraft! Threadomancy!

[Hauldren Collider]

Major necro, but I have to laugh at Che...

[MichaeltheGreat]

Chegitz had a micropoint. One of the problems with developing a creative interpretation of intel is that you lose credibility when the same people raise other alarms. The objective intel case for Iraqi WMDs in 2002 was marginal, and if you included the psychology of Saddam, it went from marginal to crap. The big fundamental difference 10 years ago was that Iraq was actually run by a buffoon and his bootlickers, Iran was only fronted by a buffoon, with the real power being a bunch of long-term thinking, calculating SOBs who are patient, methodical, and anything but crazy.

[regexcellent]

Saddam did the geopolitical equivalent of robbing a bank with an airsoft gun by pretending to have/be working on a bomb when he wasn't.

[Dr Strangelove]

Does anyone watch the TV series Last Resort? The premise is that an American nuclear submarine, the ficticious USS Colorado, picks up a couple of Navy SEALs off the coast of Pakistan, then moments later is ordered to unleash a salvo nuclear missles at Pakistan. The captain prepares to do so, but then feels odd about the fact that the order came over an emergency channel instead of the regular one. The emergency channel was suposed to be used if the US command had already been destroyed. They put up their antenna and listen to news traffic only to find that there's no hint of an attack on the US, so they try to contact naval command. The response is that a nearby US attack sub fires a torpedo at them. Yet another American sub completes their mission, firing 2 missles at Pakistan which detonate and kill millions of people. At some point a strike team lands in Pakistan and removes its nuclear stockpile. The Colorado flees the area and sets up base on a small island in the Inidan Ocean which harbors a NATO radar facility. When the US Navy closes in they fire a missle at the United States, having it pass over Washington DC and detonate out in the Atlantic. Several episodes later we learn that the seal team had been sent in to rescue a UN weapons inspector who was supposed to have important information about Pakistan's dealings with terrorists. It turned out that Pakistan had not given any nukes to terrorists, so the team executed the weapons inspector. Part of the plan had been to plant fake evidence, but the seal team was interupted, the plan fell through and instead they wound up filming their commander telling them to lie then getting accidently shot while assasinating the weapons inspector. The film was taken to the sub, so it hasn't been shown to the public.

As all this happens, in the TV series, 81 nations in the UN vote to condemn the nuclear bombing of Pakistan. That leaves me thinking: "Only 81? Really? Let's see, there are about 50 members of the UN that have muslim majorities or pluralities, who obviously would object, so that means that a major TV network thinks that if the US out of the blue decided to nuke a muslim country less than 1/4 of the remaining 143 non-muslim members would object." Does the United States really have that much of the world in its pocket?

[regexcellent]

Last Resort is a ****ing stupid show and if you watch it you should be ashamed of yourself.

[Thorn]

I think both Iran and North Korea have had short range ICBM's capable of reaching at least the west coast of the USA in the past, some of which probably were sabatoged by now, but sold to them probably by the old soviet republics. Its a ticking time bomb people, fiscal cliff, obamacare, god in schools, lets hope we only have that kind of thing to complain and fight about for a long time.