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  • #31
    They can make tanks that break down too. Hurray!

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    • #32
      I want to slap this article in fromt of every libertarian I know, show them what happens when you take thier logic to it's ultimate conclusion. The moment your employer can say what can and can't do off the job (and getting to work is off the job) you have become a serf of your employer.

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      • #33
        I think you'd have to be a moron to take this article and apply it to libertarianism.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Odin
          I want to slap this article in fromt of every libertarian I know, show them what happens when you take thier logic to it's ultimate conclusion. The moment your employer can say what can and can't do off the job (and getting to work is off the job) you have become a serf of your employer.
          No, you haven't.

          If you don't like it, go work somewhere else.
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          AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
          AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
          DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Odin
            I want to slap this article in fromt of every libertarian I know, show them what happens when you take thier logic to it's ultimate conclusion. The moment your employer can say what can and can't do off the job (and getting to work is off the job) you have become a serf of your employer.
            They aren't telling them what they can or can't do off work. They are telling them the rules of THEIR parking lot. The parking lots are owned by GM. They aren't public lots, they are private.

            Now I'm not saying I agree with it, because I think its just stupid; I'm just saying that they can do it.
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            • #36
              This isn't a Libertarian thing. It's a stupid corporate thing.

              -Arrian
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              • #37
                Odin: pwn3d.

                That said, GM

                Why? Well, for one, it could be a huge public relations disaster in the making, and I'm always for bloodsport. That, and I despise GM.
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                • #38
                  I would care, except, I wouldn't be caught dead owning an American car, so... I can't exactly boycott products I'd never buy in the first place.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Zkribbler


                    Company loyalty comes voluntarily from the employees.
                    Yes indeed, it's quite sad when a company can't inspire spontaneous loyalty .
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                    • #40
                      Re: GM plant to workers: Drive our cars or walk

                      Originally posted by Odin


                      Corporate Serfdom:
                      People who throw in terms like "serfdom" or other references to feudalism when it comes to nonsense like this because they lack the capacity for original thought required to come up with a proper description for what is really going on here



                      However, if one thinks that atheist and gays today are treated the same as blacks were back during the 50's and 60's, perhaps equating GM's policy with serfdom is par for the course.



                      Carry on.
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                      • #41
                        2. What if the worker just simply thinks the Toyota is a better car despite any GM discounts? That should tell GM something, right, and perhaps even give their workers some insight on the competition? No, I guess it's better to be out of sight and out of mind: "Herb, just look at our parking lot out there. Absolutely PACKED with GM cars!!! Not a foreign make to be seen! Our cars must be taking over the world!!!"
                        Yup. The reek of a protectionist world-view is very strong within this decision. Upkeeping large annual production amounts by forcing people to buy your products ain't a sound long-term business model.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by LordShiva
                          No, you haven't.

                          If you don't like it, go work somewhere else.
                          Bull...

                          In any relationship, there's giving and taking, else it becomes extortion.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by alva
                            Bull...

                            In any relationship, there's giving and taking, else it becomes extortion.
                            Sure. But if you don't feel like taking what the other side is giving, you're free to go elsewhere. This doesn't sound like serfdom to me.
                            THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                            AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                            AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                            DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by DanS
                              This is petty. Instead of spending their energy competing against the Japanese and Korean car companies, they're spending it making up and enforcing stupid rules for their employees.
                              I imagine that this helps them wrt the unions. I have never seen such anti-foreign car people as the few United Auto Workers I have met. These people virtually start yelling when ever they see a foreign designed/made car.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Arrian

                                If you haven't figured out by now that GM sucks, wow.

                                -Arrian
                                GM's cars are mostly average or slightly above average in design and actually very well put together quality wise. The problem is their still designing their cars and trucks for 1960's tastes instead of what people want in the 2000s. The management is just entirely inbred and the lot of them should have been taken out and shot decades ago.
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