Your super music group

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by CyberShy
c'mon, The Beatles are a nice boyband, the made some nice tunes, had some charisma, but musically they're pretty mediocer. It's more that they were the first then that they were the best.

Super group:
Freddie Mercury (singer)
John Petrucci (guitar)
Jordan Rudess (keys)
Mike Portnoy (drums)
Johan Myung (bass)

Two henious crimes here. First, calling the Beatles a boyband, second, liking Freddie "shoot me I'm repulsive" Mercury.*

Boybands are mostly talentless phucks who can't do anything but sing and dance, and usually put together by industry moguls, Actually writing songs or playing instruments is way beyond them.

The Beatles were not only a real band, but the songwriting, musicianship, and instrumentation/arrangements were all of the highest quality. Their influence on everything that followed musically was almost as profound as the influence of the Roman empire, while the only things boybands ever influenced were other boybands.

Try playing an average Beatles song with one guitar or less than three voices. You cant. The harmonic interplay between the instruments and vocals that defined their sound was very special, and the melodic strength of composition after composition portrayed an awesome talent, rarely equalled since.

The intro to "I am the Walrus" has about 16 beautiful chords before the song even starts, which is more than most boybands will use in their entire career.

In fact, the Beatles essentially revived classical music, which had completely lost its way in the 20th century, wallowing in dischordant and unlistenable cacophonies in a desperate bit for innovative experimentation. Put simply, The Beatles reinvented the tune.

Sorry, Cybershy, no offence mate, but you can't even spell mediocre, let alone understand its meaning in this context.

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(*thanks to reds for inspiring this description of FM)

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Dis
I already know it.

My group would be so disjointed they could never work together. Because they would consist of musicians with different styles and different genres.

It would never work.

For example: Les Claypool on bass guitar and Jimi Hendrix on lead guitar. Right there you would have a clash. Because both are frontmen. And you can only have 1 frontman.

Dis is basically correct here. A group is more than the sum of its parts, and the best bands have a chemistry unique to themselves.

Take the Doors - totally awesome as a band, but Morrison without Manzarek is just a tosser, and Manzarek's music without Morrison's muse was hopeless.

Even the component parts of the Beatles (see my eulogy above) as solo careers were a pale shadow of the real thing.

Getting personalities to gel in bands can be even harder than writing good songs & arrangements. In most cases, there is only room for one songwriter, and in all cases, there is only ever room for one egomaniac, and as many talented musicians are egomaniacs, holding a band together is usually only a temporary arrangement.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by reds4ever
Vocals - Paul Weller
Bass - John Townsend
Drums - Kieth Moon
Lead - Jimi Hendrix.

Do you mean John Entwhistle, by any chance?

Weller and Hendrix could never be in a band together. Paul Weller, genius though he is at the height of his powers (All Mod Cons & Setting Sons) would basically thump anyone who disagreed with him, and I can't see him and Jimi seeing eye-to-eye on everything. Weller also refused to pay his drummer properly (last I heard Rick Buckler was still trying to get the money out of him in court), and I expect 'Moon the Loon' would have had something to say about that.

[reds4ever]

LOL! Sorry Entwhistle.

I'm not going to argue with you on the Weller/Moon thing as you've at least got the best two Jam albums right!!

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by CyberShy
What's up with the FM bashing

He was a tosser and Queen were nothing more than a caberet act.

[molly bloom]

David Cassidy

Karen Carpenter

Donny Osmond

Sid Vicious

Captain Sensible

Glenn Gould.

[Japher]

He was a tosser and Queen were nothing more than a caberet act.

too bad most ppl who know something about music totally disagree

and Keith Moon for a drummer?

[Richelieu]

Originally posted by molly bloom
David Cassidy

Karen Carpenter

Donny Osmond

Sid Vicious

Captain Sensible

Glenn Gould.

You have to see them live.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Japher




and Keith Moon for a drummer?

Keith Moon for Best Alky, Sid Vicious for Best Mainliner, and Karen Carpenter for Best Binge & Purger.

David Bowie for Best Covert Bolivian Marching Powder Inhaler in a 1970s' documentary.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Japher
too bad most ppl who know something about music totally disagree

Well, I know plenty of people who know something about music, and all of them despise the skin-crawling creep that was Freddie Mercury. Caberet act is spot on.

[-Jrabbit]

There's a lakeside statue of Freddie Mercury in Montreux, Switzerland (where he lived near the end of his career). On the base plaque, there's a quote from FM thanking "the people of Montreux for their understanding."

Always made me wonder what unsavory appetites he was feeding there...

[Japher]

skin-crawling creep

yeah, because only skin-crawling creeps performed at Live Aid and only bad singers regularly make both MTVs and BBCs lists of greatest singers.

[Asher]

Mercury was campy, to be sure, which is why a lot of people feel threatened by him. You'd have to be crazy to say he was a bad singer, he had a big range and was one of the best singers in rock n' roll history.

[Minute Mirage]

Vocals: Russell Allen
Guitar: Criss Oliva
Guitar: John Petrucci
Bass: Sean Malone
Drums: Alex Arellano
Keyboards: Kevin Moore

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Japher


yeah, because only skin-crawling creeps performed at Live Aid and only bad singers regularly make both MTVs and BBCs lists of greatest singers.

Live Aid was about reviving flagging careers while striking moral postures. I didn't say he couldn't sing, I said he was a creep.

As for the MTV/BBC thing - these polls are a joke. According to some of these 'greatest' lists, Robbie Williams is the best entertainer ever to have lived, and the best album in history is Radioheads wrist-slashing heap of morose, self-indulgent pile of ****, OK Computer.

But please, carry on enjoying the artists you like. Music would be so dull if we didn't have different tastes.