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  • Originally posted by SlowwHand
    It's done as proof. They know of people like frequent ACS and doubt the moon landing, and things like that.
    Proof of what? That's just a lookalike lying on his back with his eyes close. With some red colouring on his face for effects.
    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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    • Originally posted by DanS
      On CNN, they've got a good video of the airstrike that killed him. A 500 lb. bomb obliterated the structure that he was in.
      Ironically it was called a "safe-house" in reports.
      He's got the Midas touch.
      But he touched it too much!
      Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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      • Originally posted by SlowwHand
        I'd say he had a bad day. Tsk, tsk.
        Zomg!! They killed mr.T!!!
        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
        Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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        • Originally posted by Sikander
          Ironically it was called a "safe-house" in reports.
          Except on fox; the Daily Show played about a dozen clips where the host said "UNsafe house" about as lamely as possible.
          Unbelievable!

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          • excellent news
            urgh.NSFW

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            • Originally posted by Provost Harrison
              It's because of the West's interfering foreign policy that Saddam is there in the first place. It's a mess and it's a no win situation now...
              So the West put Saddam in power? That's a new one.
              He's got the Midas touch.
              But he touched it too much!
              Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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              • Originally posted by Sava

                ....
                I doubt they were hell-bent to go into Iraq from the get go. It's hard to plan for a war from day one of a presidency. You are making the assumption that Bush has the ability to think ten steps ahead. I don't think he's that smart. Just look at his track record.

                And if they were planning to go into Iraq, why was everything thrown together so last minute? Rumsfeld making excuses like, "you fight a war with what you've got..." You'd think they'd be better prepared if they were planning to go to war.
                They all but announced that they were going after Iraq during the 2000 presidential campaign. Have a look at Condi's speech during the campaign which outlined Bush foreign policy, it's one of the top priorities.
                He's got the Midas touch.
                But he touched it too much!
                Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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                • Originally posted by Sikander


                  So the West put Saddam in power? That's a new one.

                  No the west helped him keeping his power.

                  It's funny how our governements always end up supporting/tolerating a brutal maniac and afterwards some of us are supprised the local population doesn't like us one bit.
                  "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                  • Usually the local population supports brutal maniacs as well. "when in Rome", etc...
                    urgh.NSFW

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                    • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                      Apparently we could have killed him both in 2002 and 2003 but decided not to, so that we could use him as an excuse to try and pretend that Hussein was working with al-Qaeda.



                      I love my govnerment.

                      In January 2003, the threat turned real. Police in London arrested six terror suspects and discovered a ricin lab connected to the camp in Iraq.

                      The Pentagon drew up still another attack plan, and for the third time, the National Security Council killed it.

                      Military officials insist their case for attacking Zarqawi’s operation was airtight, but the administration feared destroying the terrorist camp in Iraq could undercut its case for war against Saddam.
                      we didnt need him alive as a casus belli, dead hed have served just as well. We didnt kill him, because to bomb Iraq while we were trying to pass UNSC resolutions would have killed the diplo effort.
                      "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                      • Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                        It's not the US's oil reserves. So it's quite imperialistic to "protect" the reserves from the locals.
                        the reserves belong to KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain. None of which are in a position to protect themselves from their larger neighbors. Thats the security dilemma that we've faced their, since the British withdrawl in 1971.
                        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                        • Originally posted by dannubis



                          No the west helped him keeping his power.

                          It's funny how our governements always end up supporting/tolerating a brutal maniac and afterwards some of us are supprised the local population doesn't like us one bit.

                          In the mid-eighties we provided some help, mainly intell, to keep them from being beaten by Iran. But most Shia Iraqis were loyal soldiers FOR Iraq during that war, so Id be very surprised that they resent us for that.

                          They apparently DID resent us for not supporting their rebellion in 1991. We refrained from supporting that rebellion cause Powell, Scowcroft, etc thought that helping them overthrow Saddam would mean wed be responsible for IRaq, and it would be a horror. For which Scowcroft and others are now considered geniuses. It does seem hard to both approve of that policy, and then to blame the US for thereby supporting the dictator.
                          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                          • I was not only talking about the US. When I say the west I include Europe in it. And France did sell a lot of weapons to Saddam.

                            Nevertheless, I think it is safe to say that the average Iraqi hates the west.
                            "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                            • A thread full of dancing smilies at the news of a mans death.

                              And Dead Pools aren't allowed.

                              I thought it was 'offensive' to do this sort of thing?

                              I ask again - Where is the consistancy at this site?
                              "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                              "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                              • yes, but hate isn't a rational feeling. You can hate someone for a variety of reasons.
                                urgh.NSFW

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