Breaking News: Abu Musab Killed In Iraq ...

[DanS]

This is great news. Notch one up for the good guys.

Also important was the fact that 7 aides were killed with him.

[Lord Avalon]

The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.

[Geronimo]

I wonder if this will make it at least a little easier for the occupiers to withdraw without triggering a collapse into deeper anarchy.

Perhaps if the leadership of the insurgency can be destabilized enough immediately prior to a withdrawl of the foreign occupiers the combined effect of losses of leadership with loss of it's popular justification would take the wind out of the sails of the insurgencies?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Oerdin


In the ned it all comes down to human intel which we're still not getting enough of. We had to rely on the Jordians to infiltrate his group and tell us where to find him.

apparenly local Iraqis provided intell as well.

[Odin]

For getting this 1st-class ass.

Unfortunately we are long past the time that this will quell the insugency, it's mostly average Achmeds POed about the hell they are living in blowing us up, now.

[Cort Haus]

One less butt-munch is never a bad thing, but I'd be surprised if anything much changes.

[The diplomat]

This is great news! I can't wait for the same thing to happen to Bin Laden.

[DanS]

On CNN, they've got a good video of the airstrike that killed him. A 500 lb. bomb obliterated the structure that he was in.

[Lorizael]

You can't wait? We've already waited five years since 9/11. Thirteen years since the first time he tried to blow up the WTC.

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by Lorizael
You can't wait? We've already waited five years since 9/11. Thirteen years since the first time he tried to blow up the WTC.

But it will happen. We will get Bin Laden sooner or later.

[Sava]

RIP









but anyways, it's important to note the opinions of the everday Iraqi

link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060608/...raq_al_zarqawi

Amir Muhammed Ali, a 45-year-old stock broker in Baghdad, was skeptical that al-Zarqawi's death would end the unrelenting sectarian violence and said the Iraqi resistance to U.S.-led forces likely would continue.

"He didn't represent the resistance, someone will replace him and the operations will go on," he said.

It's sad. The Iraqi people seem to be closer to reality than the Bush administration.

Just like Vietnam, but different. We will win nearly every battle but lose the war. Just wait. You'll see.

Best to withdraw while we can, save money and lives, work towards peace with the Muslim world... we're going to make terrorism a bigger problem in the future than it is now.

The problem of terrorism is not the terrists vs America... as most people see it. It's a philosophical struggle within Islam. It's only going to be solved by Muslims choosing to abandon more radical and puritanical ideals in favor of moderation. And our actions and policies in the region are driving more people towards fundamentalism and violence. Many people are going to grow up hating the US because of the occupation, because of our presence in the region... and holding a grudge is something of a matter of pride in Islam.

We can only work to solve this by making our presence scarce... working towards righting the wrongs. And... GOD FORBID... maybe issuing an APOLOGY for killing innocent people? That might go a long way towards building a lot of good will. The US needs some serious PR work. Not a military solution. Let the rest of the Muslim world worry about the Wahabis. Work with our allies in the region. Be a silent partner to protect our oil interests. But we don't need to maintain military bases. We don't need to occupy any countries.

Many morons will tell you, "WE NEED TO KILL THEM ALL". Really, huh? You are going to become the thought police and kill every single person who believes in a fundamentalist interpretation of Islam? Every single person who preaches jihad? Every person who harbors ill will towards America?

That's a lot of people you are going to have to kill. It smacks of genocide, IMO.

Maybe if we're not flushing hundreds of billions of dollars down the toilet on silly wars, we could use that money to protect America from such threats. And you know what, such protection is "all purpose". It wouldn't just stop the Islamic fundies... but anyone who would attempt to blow up a building, set off a nuke, release a chemical agent, or whatever. Considering we have some serious security flaws in this country, wouldn't we be better served using our resources for defense, rather than a horribly inefficient offensive effort that only addresses one threat? And to be perfectly frank, we aren't getting a lot for our money.


But then again, I'm just some random internet asshat, what do I know, right?

I'll await the inevitable dumbass responses to my post. joncha tells me I shouldn't bother with any serious posting... that I should just troll you idiots. For some reason, I still feel that there is hope for you retards. But I'll say this. Some people understand that my posting style is deliberate, calculated, and that I am essentially a character. For those of you that are unable to seperate a serious post from my usual asshattery, I'll say this:

GET A CLUE!

[Sava]

Originally posted by The diplomat


But it will happen. We will get Bin Laden sooner or later.

And by the time that happens, the US will have created a thousand more bin Ladens.

[Lorizael]

Smooth transition into talking about yourself, Sava.

[Brundlefly]

What do you think will be an appropriate burial for a guy who personally beheaded two people and was responsible for the beheadings of at least a dozen others?

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by techumseh


Exactly. While this is a propaganda victory for the Bush gang, it remains to be seen if there will be a significant impact on the insurgency. I suspect not, since the role of al Qaeda in the insurgency has been overemphasized.

I think it will have a long term strategic effect, rather than anything short term or operational. Al Zarqawi had some management and leadership skills, which aren't that easily replaceable, but it is in our interest to diminish hostile foreign presence in Iraq. Purely domestic sectarian violence is not as significant to us, unless it reaches a point where it can be exploited by outsiders, or Iraqis with an agenda which extends beyond the borders.