Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

When I grow old, I want to be...British?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • When I grow old, I want to be...British?

    I can't wait til the find the explanation for this. Specifically, I want to know how a dark, dank country full of drunks, with a famously dysfunctional National Health Service, is nevertheless doing better than we are.

    The last paragraph is especially worrisome.

    Oh well...Rule Britannia, and all that.

    Study Says Older Americans Are Less Healthy Than British

    By ALAN COWELL
    Published: May 3, 2006

    LONDON, May 2 — Americans 55 and over are much sicker than their British counterparts even though the United States spends more than twice as much per person on health care as Britain, researchers said Tuesday.

    Writing in The Journal of the American Medical Association, researchers from University College, London, also seemed to confirm stereotypes tossed across the Atlantic, concluding that Americans are prone to obesity while Britons drink too much.

    The conclusions followed an inquiry that used data from American and British health surveys to compare the relative health of people ages 55 to 64 and how their health varies as a result of social and economic status.

    The researchers wrote that "health insurance cannot be the central reason for the better health outcomes in England because the top socioeconomic-status tier of the U.S. population have close to universal access but their health outcomes are often worse than those of their English counterparts."

    In Britain, many people depend on the widely available, state-run National Health Service, which is facing huge deficits that have eliminated thousands of hospital beds.

    Dr. Michael Marmot, an author of the report, said the research showed that differences in health could not be ascribed to the "usual suspects," like rates of smoking, obesity or alcohol abuse.

    Nor could varying levels of health be attributed to differences between the health care systems of the United States and Britain, he said.

    "I'm arguing that it's due to the differences in the circumstances in which people live," he said Tuesday in a telephone interview. "Work, job insecurity, the nature of communities, residential communities, et cetera — I think that's the place we should try to look."

    The article, in the issue of JAMA to be published Wednesday, said "middle-aged to older U.S. residents have higher rates of diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, heart attack, stroke, lung disease and cancer than their English counterparts."

    American per capita expenditure on medical care is $5,274 a year compared with $2,164 in Britain, according to the article.

    "Whether greater financial expenditures translate into better health for a country's citizens is uncertain," JAMA said in a news release summarizing the article. Researchers found that diabetes was twice as prevalent in the United States as in England and that hypertension was 10 percent more common in the United States.

    Comparing the habits of the people surveyed, the researchers wrote that "smoking behavior was similar in both countries, with about one in five people between the ages of 55 and 64 years currently smoking."

    But they added, "Obesity rates were much higher in the U.S., and heavy drinking was more common in England."

    Wealthier and better-educated people in both countries were much healthier than poorer and less-educated people, the researchers concluded.

    But, the press release said, the study found that "differences in socioeconomic groups between the two countries were so great that those in the top education and income level in the U.S. had similar rates of diabetes and heart disease as those in the bottom education and income level in England."
    The U.S. spends more than twice as much on health care, but Americans 55 and over are sicker than their British counterparts.
    "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

  • #2
    Its because Americans eat like pigs (including myself ). The diabetes and heart disease from all that food is what gets us.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

    Comment


    • #3
      This seems kind of obvious:

      Americans 55 and over are much sicker than their British counterparts even though the United States spends more than twice as much per person on health care as Britain, researchers said Tuesday.


      If Americans were healty they wouldn't need to spend money on healthcare.



      ACK!
      Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by Tuberski
        This seems kind of obvious:

        Americans 55 and over are much sicker than their British counterparts even though the United States spends more than twice as much per person on health care as Britain, researchers said Tuesday.


        If Americans were healty they wouldn't need to spend money on healthcare.



        ACK!
        On the contrary, I suspect what we spend twice as much on includes health insurance. I know that in teh last 12 months my family had no medical expenses due to illness, but spent several thousand dollars on health insurance.
        "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

        Comment


        • #5
          NHS
          Single Payer Insurance
          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
          -Bokonon

          Comment


          • #6
            It's the corn syrup. We are slowly being poisoned to death by Big Corn!
            "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
            -Joan Robinson

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              Its because Americans eat like pigs (including myself ).
              You can't be eating much worse than the land of fish'n'chips, unless your chief source of protein is toxic sludge from Chernobyl or something.
              Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

              It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
              The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

              Comment


              • #8
                Preventive medicine is the cheapest while emergency room is the most expensive.

                So I am thinking, suppose a country gives free annual body checks to every citizen 40 or above. This will catch a lot of the chronic diseases and disorders in their early stages when treatment is easiest and cheapest.
                (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

                Comment


                • #9
                  The NHS is good for primary care. Doctors and suchlike. I also suspect Brits spend more time walking than Americans.

                  Slightly dishonest that it's just England in the article. Scotland (the land of the deep-fried chocolate egg) is terribly unhealthy.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    The conclusion is obvious - Americans should eat less and drink more to improve their health.
                    Never give an AI an even break.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sandman
                      Slightly dishonest that it's just England in the article. Scotland (the land of the deep-fried chocolate egg) is terribly unhealthy.
                      Perhaps, but I'm at a loss to name a single healthy dish I associate with English cuisine. Even English vegetables seem less healthy than their counterparts worldwide, given the English penchant for overcooking them.

                      That's what makes this so shocking: you can eat like the English and still be much, much healthier than an American.
                      "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Last Conformist
                        You can't be eating much worse than the land of fish'n'chips, unless your chief source of protein is toxic sludge from Chernobyl or something.
                        Fast food fulfills that requirement.
                        "Compromises are not always good things. If one guy wants to drill a five-inch hole in the bottom of your life boat, and the other person doesn't, a compromise of a two-inch hole is still stupid." - chegitz guevara
                        "Bill3000: The United Demesos? Boy, I was young and stupid back then.
                        Jasonian22: Bill, you are STILL young and stupid."

                        "is it normal to imaginne dartrh vader and myself in a tjhreee way with some hot chick? i'ts always been my fantasy" - Dis

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
                          Perhaps, but I'm at a loss to name a single healthy dish I associate with English cuisine. Even English vegetables seem less healthy than their counterparts worldwide, given the English penchant for overcooking them.

                          That's what makes this so shocking: you can eat like the English and still be much, much healthier than an American.
                          Most days, English people don't eat just English cuisine (if they eat it at all).

                          Besides, you're forgetting the sandwich.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly


                            Perhaps, but I'm at a loss to name a single healthy dish I associate with English cuisine. Even English vegetables seem less healthy than their counterparts worldwide, given the English penchant for overcooking them.

                            That's what makes this so shocking: you can eat like the English and still be much, much healthier than an American.
                            You should try and get a better picture of what we eat rather than the stereotypes. Although we seem to be getting a large propensity for eating too much 'fast food' like yourselves...
                            Speaking of Erith:

                            "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Yum! Actually, no.
                              Attached Files

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X