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  • #16
    Considering their numbers, I don't think they'll do much harm if they take the path of violence.
    Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

    It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
    The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Last Conformist
      Considering their numbers, I don't think they'll do much harm if they take the path of violence.
      They could poison food or something. Even though I agree that they don't pose a threat to society as a whole, ithey're still dangerous.
      "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
      "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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      • #18
        No more than your average urban gang, I'd think.
        Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

        It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
        The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Last Conformist
          No more than your average urban gang, I'd think.
          Maybe it's because I live in Austria, where slums are rare.
          "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
          "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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          • #20
            Well, they're not exactly thick on the ground here either.
            Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

            It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
            The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Wernazuma III
              Did you listen to the interview. "Why don't you OBEY to the lord". They are so dominated by their hate that the next step is violence.
              The interview was interesting. I think you have an overactive imagination with regard to this group. Or a misunderstanding.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #22
                I can see them working their way up to death threats and minor terrorism.

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                • #23
                  Well, then you throw the book at them once they work their way up there.

                  Their whole schtick is to hide behind free speech. They're a bunch of attorneys. Violence would be very out of character.
                  Last edited by DanS; May 3, 2006, 08:19.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DanS
                    The interview was interesting. I think you have an overactive imagination with regard to this group. Or a misunderstanding.
                    What interview? The "interviewed" didn't really respond to the questions and the "journalists" didn't feel ashamed to get into mud catching. That was infotainment, but no interview.

                    Originally posted by DanS Well, then you throw the book at them once they work their way up there.

                    Their whole schtick is to hide behind free speech. They're a bunch of attorneys. Violence would be very out of character.
                    I don't think so, unless this group is only driven by getting audience. If so, you're probably right. But I think they're rather driven by genuine hate and zeal, thinking that, well, God hates America. This is manifest by crossing a line, such as invading a funeral, which by almost everyone, including the "average" fundamentalist, would consider more than sick.
                    Generally, fundamentalists at least try to appear completely sane and on air try to argue that what they do is "common sense". Not so them.
                    If God really hates America so much, it may be time for "real action", including violence and terrorism. I don't say it will happen, but it very well can turn into that.
                    "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                    "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                    • #25
                      This is manifest by crossing a line, such as invading a funeral
                      There is no line. It's sick and awful, but no more than that. What they are saying is not unlawful.

                      Generally, fundamentalists at least try to appear completely sane
                      I doubt you know that many fundamentalists. I'm guessing that you have no basis to judge.
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by DanS


                        There is no line. It's sick and awful, but no more than that. What they are saying is not unlawful.
                        Did I say they should go to jail for that?


                        I doubt you know that many fundamentalists. I'm guessing that you have no basis to judge.
                        In person? If so, I know none (well that is, except for one Iranian who used to be a communist and now is a muslim fundie). But yes, via TV I've seen a whole bunch of extremists who tried to appear as decent people in order to make politics, while their ideas actually were pretty sick. It's like those creationists who try to sneak in Inteligent Design by covering it as science, so more people are willing to support the idea.
                        "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                        "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                        • #27
                          I'm sorry for these people.
                          As a christian I do feel really ashamed.
                          Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                          Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                          • #28
                            DanS, one can draw connections between bigoted propaganda and the potential that it has to lead to violence, or to sanction violence done by others.
                            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by DanS
                              Well, then you throw the book at them once they work their way up there.

                              Their whole schtick is to hide behind free speech. They're a bunch of attorneys. Violence would be very out of character.
                              I don't think they're that predictable. Anyway, America can expect a few homegrown terrorist attacks with all the alienated veterans coming back from Iraq. Probably not related to Phelps' gang, though.

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                              • #30
                                I think Dan has them pegged correctly.

                                -Arrian
                                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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