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The battle of tours is also referred to as the battle of poitiers, but that terminology is rather confusing due to the later battle you mentioned.Originally posted by Kassiopeia
Hm, I could swear my school textbooks called the Battle of Tours the Battle of Poitiers, but turns out there was a Battle of Poitiers between France and England several centuries later. Just shows how much you should rely on textbooks.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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The Martel thing is called often Battle of Tours and Portiers here....
IIRC the exact location is unknown, and was somehow in between both cities.BlahComment
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Yeah, I was wondering where the Battle of Poitiers had disappeared from the discussion, but then I found out it was actually the Battle of Tours. Pfft.Originally posted by KrazyHorse
The battle of tours is also referred to as the battle of poitiers, but that terminology is rather confusing due to the later battle you mentioned.Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test. Thank you for helping us help you help us all!Comment
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The 30 thousand strong Bulgarian cavalry that took part in one of the crucial battles was certainly not attacking the Arabs from behind the city walls.Originally posted by Darius871
On the other hand Martel wasn't sitting pretty behind a wall 5 meters thick and 12 meters high, itself behind another external wall 2 meters thick and 8.5 meters high, and with impenetrable sea walls to the east. Hardly a comparable feat IMHO.
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I thought Avila was the capital of medieval Spain.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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You mean, of Castile?
The Battle of Lepanto (between Spain and the Turks) hasn't been mentioned, which helped to end Ottoman dominance of the Mediterannean.
The second Battle of Vienna was also important.
As for turning points in the other direction, Manzikert was pivotal in destroying in the Byzantine Empire."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Kosovo should probably also be mentioned. Serbs vs Turks.Quendelie axan!Comment
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Battle of Talas, 751 AD.
Chinese lost badly, but Muslims got no farther East.Old posters never die.
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Siege of Malta (1565)
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and of course the fall of Constantinople in 1453. or do you just want battles the muslims lost?CSPAComment
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If it's about pro Muslim outcomes too, then the Battle of Ain Jalut 1260 should be mentioned, where the Mamlucks stopped the Mongols
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This thread hasn't descended into trolling acrimony yet!
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