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    I have a question about the sex offender database:

    If I'm 18years old, and I make love with another 18years old girl.

    Is it true, some state have legal age to make love? And if yes, If someone bring me to court because I make love below the legal age. Is my name listed on the sex offender list?


    Another, if I'm 18y old and the girl is 17y old. If someone bring me to court, do my name will be on the sex offender list?

    Thank!


    Maine killings raises questions about sex offender registries
    CORINTH, Maine -- A Canadian man who killed two sex offenders in Maine accessed their names from the state's online sex offender registry, raising concerns such registries make sex offenders easy marks for vigilante violence, officials said Monday.

    The accused shooter, Stephen A. Marshall, 20, took his life Sunday night after fleeing to Boston, where he was cornered aboard a bus by police.

    Investigators were not certain Monday of the relationship _ if there was one _ between Marshall and the victims in Milo and Corinth. But those men were among 34 names he looked up on the Web site, said Stephen McCausland of the Maine Department of Public Safety.

    The Web site was disabled while police searched for Marshall but was restored Monday afternoon.

    "The Web site is back on. It is there by law. The reason why the information is available to the public is well documented," said McCausland. The sex offender registry, he noted, is the most popular page on the state's Web site.

    But the killings added to a growing unease with such Web sites. Jack King from the National Associaton of Criminal Defense Lawyers said making public sex offenders' addresses can be an invitation to violence.

    Harassment, vandalism, assaults and even killings of sex offenders have been reported from coast to coast.

    "There are going to be crazy people out there," King said from Washington, D.C. "And there's going to be vigilantism."

    After New Jersey passed a public disclosure law on sex offenders in the 1990s, the brother of an offender was nearly beaten to death with a baseball bat when he was mistaken for his brother, King said.

    In New Hampshire, Lawrence Trant is serving a prison sentence after pleading guilty to the attempted murder of two convicted sex offenders whose names and addresses he found on an Internet registry posted by the state.

    A sex offender Web site in Washington state was cited in the deaths of two convicted child rapists last summer. Michael Anthony Mullen, 35, pleaded guilty to two counts of second-degree murder and was sentenced to more than 44 years in prison.

    In Maine, the registered sex offenders who were shot to death were Joseph Gray, 57, of Milo, and William Elliott, 24, of Corinth, McCausland said.

    Gray's name was posted on a state Web site because he had moved to Maine after a Massachusetts conviction for sexual assault on a child under 14, McCausland said. Elliott's conviction was for having sex with a girl who was under the legal age, he said.

    When he shot himself, Marshall had with him a laptop computer along with two handguns, said Dave Procopio, spokesman for the Suffolk County District Attorney's Office. Those items will be turned over to Maine investigators, he said.

    Marshall, a 20-year-old restaurant dishwasher from North Sydney, Nova Scotia, had come to Houlton, to visit his father.

    Investigators believe he used his father's pickup during the killings. The father hadn't realized his son and truck were missing, McCausland said. Marshall also took two handguns and a rifle from his father, the spokesman said.

    Police tracked Marshall to Boston after finding his pickup abandoned in Bangor and then discovering bullets linked to him in a bus stop restroom.

    All states have sex offender registries and almost all of them post the information on line, according to Blake Harrison of the National Conference of State Legislatures.

    Maine's Web site, which has the names of more than 2,200 sex offenders, contains such information as the offender's name, address, date of birth, identifying characteristics and place of employment, as well as a photograph. Depending on the crime, the offender is required to register either for 10 years or for life.

    In Washington, the Whatcom County Sheriff's Office posts a warning on its sex offender registry under the heading "Vigilantism _ Zero Tolerance" urging people to use the site responsibly and not use the information to harass or intimidate offenders. The registry was the Web site where Mullen said he got the names and addresses of his victims.

    If people use the site to harass sex offenders, that would give critics of the site more reasons to argue that it should be shut down, said sheriff's Detective Ray Oaks, who maintains the county registry. The aim of the site, he said, is to notify the public about offenders.

    Carlos Cuevas from the Crimes Against Children Research Center at the University of New Hampshire said more research is needed into the effectiveness of sex offender registries.

    "One issue we need more research into is how communities are using this information," he said. "Is it effective in lowering the rates of child victimization?"

    In Maine, residents of Corinth and Milo were left to wonder about the deaths, which occurred about five hours apart on Easter Sunday morning.

    Neither Gray nor Elliott seemed to have caused a stir.

    Gray and his wife moved a couple years ago from Massachusetts to Milo, a town of about 2,400 residents, said Kenny Hudak, a local police sergeant who isn't involved in the case. Hudak said Gray had lived a "reclusive life."

    In Corinth, 25 miles away, residents were alerted when Elliott moved into a vinyl-sided trailer in woods outside of the town's village. The property was covered with trash, piles of tires and at least a dozen junk vehicles.

    "I think more people were concerned about the mess than him being a sex offender," said Mary Hadley, who lives across the road.

    Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
    bleh

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    But the killings added to a growing unease with such Web sites. Jack King from the National Associaton of Criminal Defense Lawyers said making public sex offenders' addresses can be an invitation to violence.

    Harassment, vandalism, assaults and even killings of sex offenders have been reported from coast to coast.

    "There are going to be crazy people out there," King said from Washington, D.C. "And there's going to be vigilantism."


    I have to agree. The individuals served their time. They shouldn't have to deal with vigilante justice, which the state knows is a forseeable consequence.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #3
      Another, if I'm 18y old and the girl is 17y old. If someone bring me to court, do my name will be on the sex offender list?


      Depends on the state.

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      • #4
        But most likely, not.

        (There may be a state that makes that a sex crime, but I don't know of one off-hand)
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #5
          Yeah, depending on the ages involved, that could be statutory rape and get you on that list.

          The guy he got in Corinth lived right down the road from me. It was weird...random shooting aren't exactly common around here.
          "In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
            But most likely, not.

            (There may be a state that makes that a sex crime, but I don't know of one off-hand)
            I thought Maine did...
            "In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion

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            • #7
              I went to Boston once.

              It made me feel like doing myself in.

              Although I did see one of John Kerry's daughters on the street. Very ****able.
              Only feebs vote.

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              • #8
                When in doubt, Google...

                The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                • #9
                  So Man and Man sex is illegal in many U.S. states!
                  I wonder when was the last trial about a man having sex with another man.
                  bleh

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                  • #10
                    That's not entirely accurate though. Sodomy is legal in the US everywhere now.. and there is an age of consent and then there is also another age of consent 'window' (as I like to call it) if the two are within a certain age.

                    For example, there is an 18 age of consent in X state. However, X state also allows a 16 year old to give consent if the partner is within 4 years of his/her age.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cronos_qc
                      So Man and Man sex is illegal in many U.S. states!
                      No.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #12
                        Canada law:
                        Man + Man = 18y old
                        Female + Female = 14y old!
                        ... I can see the reason why, but it's funny!
                        bleh

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


                          No.
                          If sodomy is illegal, Man + Man is also... Illegal!
                          Unless you only do oral or masturbate your partner....
                          bleh

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                          • #14
                            14 of them have it specifically illegal. My state, Nevada, has this note on homosexual relations:
                            Bisexual/Homosexual/Lesbian Sex:
                            Our initial indication was that this law was repealed in 1993. However, the entry at the bottom of the statute shows a 1999 update date. Nevada shows a minor as a person under 18. Therefore our guess is that it is legal for persons 18 and above only.
                            The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                            The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                            • #15
                              Sodomy is legel everywhere, even if the laws are still on the books. There was a SCOTUS decision a while back.

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