An important (by which I mean trivial) question

[KrazyHorse]

A young singer named Mandy Moore
Did her best not to act like a whore
"I shouldn't, you see,
It's my mo-ra-li-tee
And besides, it can leave me quite sore"

[Jon Miller]

I stopped paying any attention to female pop singers about the time she came on to the seen (I watched Britney and Christina and Jessica videos I admit)

(Genie in a Bottle was hot!)

so I know pretty much nothing about her, I do know it was rediculous the virgin claims of Britney and Christina... Jessica, maybe, but if the magazine covers I see at checkout stands are to be beleived.. (and they are the only way I see anything about these people now, as I don't hang out with anyone who follows them either) Jessica is slutty now too

Jon Miller

[Pekka]

none of these whores are virgins.

[Jon Miller]

oh, well yes

and they weren't when they were claiming to be either

there were claims that Jessica was a 'virgin' until she slept with her husband Nick

Jon Miller
(which reminds...

I know a girl who was a 3/4s virgin, in that she would only allow guys to go 1/4 in for the longest time.

Is as silly to me as those who claim to be virgins because they have only done anal)

[Winston]

Originally posted by Pekka
none of these whores are virgins.

It is obvious they should have registered here before they ruined their lives so tragically.

[Pekka]

JM, right, right.. that's a joke, if you have intercourse, I mean anally or what ever, you're not a virgin anymore in general. Vaginally, perhaps, in general? Not. I think that's having sex!

Now.. then there are people who have had sex, but now taken new vows not to have sex until married, and they claim to be virgins, as in factually.

What can I say? People are weird as hell.

And what does it mean, I mean there are these sluts who act like sluts and are in fact sluts, that do everything except maybe have 100% vaginal sex. But everything else is a go. Then they're like proud 'I saved myself for you'. No you didn't. YOu were whoring yourself all over the city for YEARS!

I'd rather see the librarian girl who had sex with his first few boyfriends (that she got physical with), but she didn't make a big deal out of it and she did it because she wanted to.

You know. That is more virgin that the city sluts.

You can't play technicalities here, making up new rules.

[Jon Miller]

yeah, I agree

oral is sex
anal is sex
vaginal is sex

even some other touching/rubbing is sex

you can say that you haven't been penetrated.. but that is different from saying you haven't had sex

Jon Miller
(and in my oppinion is meaningless)