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  • Hear me you people of darkness!

    ... and you should. My message is awesome. It might be the best informative message you've heard in a long time so open your eyes and ears.

    Libertarians are right. The rest of you are bunch of bastards.

    That's right I said it. They got the basic principles correct. I'm not necessarily talking about economical issues.

    But I find libertarians quite boring. Why do they have so little support because quite obviously they have the most intelligent and best principles? Are the rest of the people just that stupid? Not necessarily.

    I think we need to create new movement and I can lead it. The working title is Pekkaism of Libertarian movement, how ever it's still negotiable. The idea is to bring 'the realism' to the whole thing that even the most evil right wing nutjobs can appreciate. We might not be able to suck all the lefties in but who cares about losers anyway.


    Now, the Libertarian ideas, they seem 'utopia, not realistic, chasing things that aren't real' to many old people. Old people who prolly have seen wars. Old people, who built countries. Old people who banned drugs. Even soft drugs. Old people who voted for Bush. Old people who fought for the new cures of cancer. Old people who defeated fascist regimes. Old people who thinks the good old days were the good old days, when you had to walk 90 miles to get water.

    But in order for anything to happen, I think it's quite obvious old people need to get aboard. They have power. The power of vote. So we need to attach some good old conservative ideas with conscience to the whole thing of silly freedom of an individual.

    So what do I mean by these new additions? I mean hardcore police violence!! Well how does that get into the whole thing, isn't that kind of .. against the idea? NO! You just need to open your mind! The police should take new priorities in their tasks. They should baton the corrupt politicians down with rage, blood spilling everywhere, hey this can be great LIVE TV action too... for limiting our freedoms. Police shouldn't be in the hands of big chiefs who are balls deep in the butts of their public sector 'superiors'. Ultimately, police should be working for us, the citizens. Citizenship should be something even more special. It should allow us MORE freedoms, it should GUARANTEE us the effective batoning down of any politician who tries to work against these greater ideals. In the name of what ever, 'security', 'moral values'.. who cares. I can't wait the moment when I get to call the cops for a batoning and watch it from TV.

    And you know how that happens. I'll be in the nude, eating unhealthy food with 2 strippers and a dog that is gay. Because that's the way I roll and it's not your business. It's my freedom. Individual freedom IS a social good, and it does NOT exclude freedom of the society. Individual is the greatest minority.

    Now, if businesses can be considered as legal entities, like a person, and THEY get away with all kinds of crimes and it's like 'oh **** we got caught, well here's the money for fines now **** off', well that's not good now is it? How about the business is actually more responsible for stuff, and we the citizens can call the cops to baton down any crooked executive? And watch if from TV.

    That's the hardcore part. Tough on crime! You know, you don't have the freedom to commit crimes.. the crimes are when you limit other people's freedom basically.
    In da butt.
    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

  • #2
    oh good grief. we need to get you out on Friday nights.

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    • #3
      Freedom is the key word. I'd like mine free please with no strings attached. If you need babysitting, call your parents and ask them what you should think or do.

      I don't need my government to tell me anything, except how much taxes I need to pay. It will, naturally, decrease the amount of bureocracy, but that's good. Kick the paper pushers out to do a real productive job.

      I don't need my government telling me who I am, identify me with their own meters of a person of this citizenship. I want the right to be truly free and that anyone who tries to offend that right, they get batoned.

      I don't need my government conducting massive surveillance on our citizens. How is that even legal? Where does it say they have the right to observe us? To PREVENT crime? No you can't profile me with the pictures where I am 3 years old and my school, army and medical records. I don't give you the right to do that.

      Naturally, some kind of surveillance is necessary so we can solve crime. But that's it. We don't need anykind of other form of it to strengthen the surveillance society that today exists, and if you deny this, you are naive and have no idea how technology works.

      This is unnecessary. We need new policies, comprhenesive policies on these things. You can't sell me, or my information, furthermore don't collect it without my consent. You don't have the right to keep any 'secret database entries' of me so you can label me accordingly with the new security settings. That's not necessary. Not without my consent you can't.

      Ah but they still do. Why? Why do you let this panoptic society continue? Why do you let some POLITICIANS to tell you what your morals should be, what you should think or do?

      No. Freedom is the key. There's no trade off with it, because there's nothing we should trade it for. Not a single bit. Not even the tiniest little peace for any cause. People die for it everyday in all parts of the world, and you're willing to give a piece of it away becuase 'it seemed like a good cause'. Forget that! POISON IN YOUR BRAINS!
      In da butt.
      "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
      THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
      "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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      • #4
        Gibsie, well put your word on action and send me money then. I have 35 euros that should last until the next friday.
        In da butt.
        "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
        THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
        "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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        • #5
          haha, I gave up on my libertarian ideas long ago. Good in theory... But it realies on people being competant and not stupid. It punishes the irresponsible. Some people (like my brother) just can't help but be irrisponsible. It's their nature.

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          • #6
            So? If you have more constricting model, how is that making stupid people smarter?
            In da butt.
            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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            • #7
              Cant send you money because we are skint, can put you up though if you get over here
              Safer worlds through superior firepower

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              • #8
                I don't want your money. I want Gibsie's money.
                In da butt.
                "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                • #9
                  No, statism is right.

                  Only the state will be able to handle the great problems we will face in the future with the enviroment.

                  Libertarians are anarchists with property, the worst combination of individualism and greed.
                  I need a foot massage

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                  • #10
                    UU uu I'm so scared now!

                    Maybe commies give you a hug!
                    In da butt.
                    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                    • #11
                      My moneys goes on chicks and dicks. I mean booze.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Hear me you people of darkness!

                        Originally posted by Pekka
                        ... and you should. My message is awesome. It might be the best informative message you've heard in a long time so open your eyes and ears.
                        I was expecting something fantastic, but all we got was another of your insane rants...
                        Speaking of Erith:

                        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
                          No, statism is right.

                          Only the state will be able to handle the great problems we will face in the future with the enviroment.
                          There is a line of thought that says that privatization of the commons (the rivers, the air, the sea) can produce strong incentives to protect the enviroment, without state intervention.

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                          • #14
                            Socialists and libertarians will never see eye to eye, and are thus doomed to eventually settle our differences through violence. Which, given that the libertarians advocate ownership of firearms, means the libs will win. (Hooray!)

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                            • #15
                              Re: Hear me you people of darkness!

                              Originally posted by Pekka
                              Libertarians are right. The rest of you are bunch of bastards.

                              That's right I said it. They got the basic principles correct. I'm not necessarily talking about economical issues.
                              What basic principles? Libertarians have no basic principles.
                              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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