Chavez steals millions from foreign companies.

[techumseh]

And just who's oil is it anyway? Wait, I've got it! It's the Venezuelan people's!

Lucky for them they have all you armchair neo-cons to tell them what to do with it!

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Geronimo

on the other hand when you are a large oil exporter you pretty much have to invade another country to get into any real sort of trouble. what are they going to do? put sanctions on you?

You don´t have to take any overt steps.
Just do some covert things, like supplying and training armed resistance forces within the country, or even make assassination attempts on the president himself. AFAIK the USA have lots of experience with these kinds of operation

[Ted Striker]

And to add to the last 3 posts, which were awesome, we keep hearing all this crap about how greedy oil companies are (you know the ones with 30 billion dollars of profit while still screwing consumers with high prices) and now we're supposed to feel sorry for them?

I don't think so

[Ted Striker]

PS LOL @ the Reactionaries feeling sorry for a French company

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Geronimo

what are they going to do? put sanctions on you?

If you ask Serb, it's prolly Orange revolution time.

[Drake Tungsten]

Who did GePap say had the echo chamber again?

[notyoueither]

Anyone he disagrees with when there are more than two of them posting in a thread, I think.

[Jon Miller]

if someone steals from you, is it wrong to take it back?

JM

[notyoueither]

Where's the theft?

Alberta begged for years for major oil companies to come to the tar sands and develop them. They finally came. Are you saying that if in, say 20 years, we decide to nationalise the oil sands that we would be recovering stolen property?

[Saras]

Originally posted by techumseh
And just who's oil is it anyway? Wait, I've got it! It's the Venezuelan people's!

Lucky for them they have all you armchair neo-cons to tell them what to do with it!

And this Venezuelan "people", how did they manage to:

a) locate the oil
b) drill for it
c) ship it to buyers

?

[Sandman]

I don't blame the Venezualans for wanting to prevent their oil wealth from disappearing under their noses. They're basically trading what little investor confidence in their country was left for more oil money. Nothing wrong with that.

Oh, and I'd like to see an example of a third world country that's doing well on the back of their oil reserves being drained by private companies. Nigeria? Angola?

[Ted Striker]

I was gonna mention those African countries, they along with many Latin American nations are not getting their fair share and often the environment gets wrecked in the process

And not we're not talking about the "tree hugging" people environmentalists, we're talking about the people that actually live their have things like their water poisioned

No big deal though when $30 billion goes back into Texas, or rich old Europe

[Provost Harrison]

He shouldn't have taken the oil fields off the oil companies...

...he should have let them keep mining and tax them to buggery

[Jon Miller]

taxing them would have been a better idea

I am not sure why he didn't do that

JM

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Saras
And this Venezuelan "people", how did they manage to:

a) locate the oil
b) drill for it
c) ship it to buyers

?

There are some countries that managed just that, without foreign private companies.