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  • #31
    Originally posted by Asher
    Sony and Nintendo are both ****ed.
    I thought the PS3 was the mutts nuts? I was close to getting a 360 but I keep reading how the PS3 will wipe the floor specs wise with the XBox?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Asher
      Sony and Nintendo are both ****ed.
      You can pull out of Bill Gates any time you wish.
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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      • #33
        It's bull****.

        People also talked about the PS2 being a supercomputer and would wipe the floor with PCs, etc. Toy Story graphics! etc.

        It now looks like the video chip in the PS3, RSX, will not have any vertex shaders at all. Cell will have to do all of work for that.

        Bluray is expensive and far slower than the DVD-ROM on the Xbox 360...

        The PS3 has 22GB/s of bandwidth to the video card chip, which is ridiculously low and a huge bottleneck as well.

        And Cell's vaunted SPEs are good at specific tasks, but not very good for gaming. They'll actually mostly be used for doing vertex shader work, it seems.

        The PS3 will be very expensive to produce, mainly due to Bluray, and Sony can't afford to lose money like MS. Corners have to be cut.

        Instead of paying for a gaming system, you're paying for a cheap bluray player with gaming as a secondary consideration. It'll be funny, actually.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #34
          Originally posted by DinoDoc
          You can pull out of Bill Gates any time you wish.
          It's realistic.

          What exactly is Nintendo's angle here? Simplistic, cheap games that are easy to make?

          That's exactly what Xbox Live Arcade counters. Indy developers can make their own games easily, they get free distribution through XBLA, they can use MS' XNA framework for game development (which kicks Nintendo's ass in terms of power and ease of use...), etc. In fact, Nintendo's development kits cost thousands of dollars...and XBLA devkit costs $100.

          What you're left with on Revolution is a gimicky controller and underpowered hardware. If the revolution controller is a success, you can guarantee knockoffs will come to PS3 and Xbox 360 as well.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #35
            BTW whats "unvealed"?


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            • #36
              I just thought it was a good mixture of the two words you obviously had in your head at the time of typing..

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Asher
                It's realistic.
                It's an annoying fanboy attitude that only serves to grate on people's nerves.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #38
                  No, it's realistic.

                  Nintendo is going with simplistic hardware to ease development and get back to simple games.

                  Microsoft has countered that by:
                  (1) launching first
                  (2) providing superior development kits
                  (3) providing cheaper development kits
                  (4) providing a very simple framework for indy developers (XNA framework is based on .NET -- it is very high-level and easy to make games fast)
                  (5) providing a very simple distribution model for these games
                  (6) not having hardware on the level of 2001-era power...

                  Put simply, you can do a lot more on the Xbox 360. From the indy, simple games to the hardcore, gorgeous games. The Revolution, on the other hand, is restricted to slow hardware, no high-definition support, and a gimicky controller (I'm still chuckling about Virtual Boy and its revolution).

                  Why do you think Silicon Knights et. al. have abandonded ship on Nintendo?
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #39
                    All I know is that there was a grand total of 1 game for the X-Box I really wanted.
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc
                      All I know is that there was a grand total of 1 game for the X-Box I really wanted.
                      Another variation of justification of effort at work.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #41
                        It really hurt that I couldn't play the Crimson Skies console game. Damn you MS!
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by nostromo

                          - NintenMaestro, conduct your own orchestra!
                          Thats the funniest thing I have read in days!

                          You made me laugh, I do think it would be a great idea
                          I need a foot massage

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                          • #43
                            To provide more balanced coverage of this important issue, I'd just like to chime in here and emphasize that I am very, very, very deeply indifferent to this crap. I actually might get a Revolution, or would if I could be bothered to get anything. It'd be nice to have a system they're actually still making games for, but I'm sure as hell not paying $500 for any of it. I don't give a rat's arse about graphics. But then, again, I don't think I'll get anything.

                            I just thought I'd offer an additional snotty opinion that nobody gives a rat's arse about, so Asher isn't alone here.
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                            • #44
                              Why are some posts red and bolded weird?
                              I need a foot massage

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                              • #45
                                That's OTBOT. But I don't know why. Maybe he blushes when there's too much homoerotic content.
                                Last edited by Nostromo; April 3, 2006, 22:13.
                                Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing

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