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  • #61
    so I'm kind of curious what percentage of poly people have had near-sightedness at one point in their life. I'm willing to bet it's higher than the general population.

    I used to have 20/20 vision until I started reading books (I didn't like to read until around age 14). At age 15 is when my eyes started going bad.

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    • #62
      I've been officially nearsighted since 2nd grade. That was in the very early 1960s.
      Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
      RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Dis


        yeah but if they blind me I won't ever have to work again. Though the downside is I couldn't play computer games or watch porn anymore.
        Look at the bright side - all those beatiful women you see now, but can't get close to, won't disturb you anymore
        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Trip

          Hey, every day there's a chance you could be run over by a car the moment you walk out of your house... can't be living in fear of that though. But to each their own.
          Yep... but I have no control over whether I will be run over by a car or not. That is indeed a chance I have to deal with since I really have no choice in the matter...

          Elective surgery is a different manner. I personally know somebody who is one of those "unlucky" people...
          and they can barely see now. Glasses work fine for me.
          I don't even notice I'm wearing them, and I see fine.
          Please explain why I should take even a small chance of making things worse Whenever I hear stats like 1 in a thousand, it just reminds me that somebody got screwed.
          Keep on Civin'
          RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • #65
            Yeah, it depends on how much one cares. For me I was bothered enough to pursue it and the minute chance of something going wrong wasn't enough to dissuade me. I certainly don't get a cut of anyone's fee so if people are happy with glasses then more power to them.

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            • #66
              I've worn glasses for over 40 years... they really aren't a problem. Many of the people I know who have had the surgery thinks it the greatest... but there is that one guy....
              Keep on Civin'
              RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #67
                The thing with contacts is I was told I'd need one for distance and the other for reading and my eyes woiuld have to adjust. But I want depth perception, gotta have it. So if I got single vision contacts for distance I'll have trouble reading stuff up close.

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                • #68
                  Not really, Berz. I have developed middle-aged eyesight. I had options: bifocals, glasses over contact, etc. I went with the option you just described -- one contact corrected for near vision, the other for distance.

                  It took my brain all of about 20 minutes to fall in love with it. Whichever eye is needed for a given task... just... automatically... takes over. So I can drive, read, track a long iron shot, work on the computer, whatever -- all at 20/20. It's awesome. No issues with depth perception. On the course -- spot target, look down, hit the ball, track its flight. Reading putts? Same as ever (yeah, kinda crappy, but that's not a vision thing ).

                  The only weird effect I have is looking at extreme distances, like looking up at stars. I get a slight doubling effect.

                  I know that some people have real problems with this form of vision correction, get headaches, etc. So it's not for everyone. But I'm TOTALLY sold on it.

                  Berz, if you want to find the right solution, you need to find a GOOD optometrist (e.g., not a chain store) and be willing to try different options. I've got a great guy who's very involved in state of the art research. (If you want, I'll ask him if he can recommend anyone in Topeka.) A good optometrist will work with you to find the solution that works best for you. Explain your needs and be willing to try things. Note: You can usually get trial pairs of contacts to see if they work for you.

                  Don't give up, man. There's something out there that's right for you!
                  Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                  RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                  • #69
                    No issues with depth perception.
                    Hmm...thats counter-intuitive or I'm missing something. How does your short distance eye deal with the other eye taking over for longer distances but still provide depth perception? I'll look into trial contacts.

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                    • #70
                      Yeah, I know. But it works for me.

                      The brain is a magical, mystical organ. Years of dealing with the world seem to have endowed it with an innate ability to deal with the issue. Remember, stereoscopy is a different thing from focal length. The appropriate eye handles the focus, but the brain picks up enough information to easily determine depth of field.

                      For me, anyway. (I've been wearing contacts since 1976-ish.)

                      Good luck with the hunt. Keep us informed.
                      Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                      RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Ming


                        Yep... but I have no control over whether I will be run over by a car or not. That is indeed a chance I have to deal with since I really have no choice in the matter...

                        Elective surgery is a different manner. I personally know somebody who is one of those "unlucky" people...
                        and they can barely see now. Glasses work fine for me.
                        I don't even notice I'm wearing them, and I see fine.
                        Please explain why I should take even a small chance of making things worse Whenever I hear stats like 1 in a thousand, it just reminds me that somebody got screwed.
                        you can avoid being run over by a car. You could be a hermit and live in Montana.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Ming
                          I've worn glasses for over 40 years... they really aren't a problem. Many of the people I know who have had the surgery thinks it the greatest... but there is that one guy....
                          yeah but you are already married. You don't need to look good.

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                          • #73
                            Remember, stereoscopy is a different thing from focal length. The appropriate eye handles the focus, but the brain picks up enough information to easily determine depth of field.
                            Makes sense, I still have depth perception without my glasses even though more distant objects look blurred.

                            Count your lucky stars Skanky.

                            Well, after 30 years with glasses the prospect of laser surgery got me interested, but that will be a last resort. I'm going to make sure these lenses aren't flawed or if I just cant adjust to the curvature. At least my old glasses are fine for golf even if the frames suck.

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                            • #74
                              I've decided to get contacts.

                              This may sound like a stupid question. (it is). But where do I get them? I'm assuming I need to go to a optomatrist. I haven't actually been to one since I was 15 when I first had to wear glasses. Since then I've went to those lenscrafter places. Or 20/20 eyecare. But I suppose I have to go to a real optomitrist.

                              I'm still not sure I can stick things in my eye though. But I'm willing to try.

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                              • #75
                                Since 5th grade I have had glasses, and am suppose to wear them.

                                However, my eyes haven't really gotten worse for not wearing them (I have hardly wore them since 8th grade).

                                I have astigmaticism.. a slightly lazy eye (or whatever, one of my lenses has a prism in it).. and a slight bit of nearsightedness (I have been both slightly nearsighted and slightly farsighted since 6th grade)

                                I have occasionally gotten headaches after long bouts of really intense reading (reading books for 20 hours a day for a few weeks..)

                                Jon Miller
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