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  • Can Australia after all become a member of the civilised world ?

    Imean, if the travel time can be reduced to a couple of hours, they might have a chance

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    Revolutionary jet engine tested

    A new jet engine designed to fly at seven times the speed of sound appears to have been successfully tested.

    The scramjet engine, the Hyshot III, was launched at Woomera, 500km north of Adelaide in Australia, on the back of a two stage Terrier-Orion rocket.

    Once 314km up, the Hyshot III fell back to Earth, reaching speeds analysts hope will have topped Mach 7.6 (9,000km/h).

    It is hoped the British-designed Hyshot III will pave the way for ultra fast, intercontinental air travel.

    An international team of researchers is presently analysing data from the experiment, to see if it met its objectives.

    The scientists had just six seconds to monitor its performance before the £1m engine crashed into the ground.

    Rachel Owen, a researcher from UK defence firm QinetiQ, which designed the scramjet, said it looked like everything had gone according to plan.

    See the scramjet experiment in detail

    The vehicle had followed a "nominal trajectory" and landed 400km down the range, Ms Owen said.

    A scramjet - or supersonic combustion ramjet - is mechanically very simple. It has no moving parts and takes all of the oxygen it needs to burn hydrogen fuel from the air.

    This makes it more efficient than a conventional rocket engine as it does not need to carry its own oxygen supply, meaning that a vehicle using one could potentially carry a larger payload.

    As the engine continues its downward path the fuel in the scramjet ignites automatically. This experiment was expected to start working at a height of 35km.

    However scramjets do not begin to work until they reach five times the speed of sound.

    At this speed the air passing through the engine is compressed and hot enough for ignition to occur. Rapid expansion of the exhaust gases creates the forward thrust.

    Making sure the flight happens correctly is incredibly difficult, according to Dr Allan Paull, project leader of the Hyshot programme at the University of Queensland.

    "You are dealing with extremes of conditions. You're working out on the edge and with a lot of the stuff no-one has ever tried before," he told the BBC News website. "You've got to expect things to go wrong".

    'Flying times cut'

    The test was the first of three test flights planned for this year by the international Hyshot consortium.

    It will be followed soon by the test flight of another Hyshot engine designed by the Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency (Jaxa). This will be followed in June by the launch of an engine that will fly at Mach 10, designed by the Australian Defence Science and Technology Organisation (DSTO).

    The first Hyshot engine was launched in 2001 but the test flight failed when the rocket carrying the engine flew off course.

    The Hyshot tests will bring the idea of a commercial scramjet one step closer to reality.

    In the first instance, these would probably be used to launch satellites into low-Earth orbit but many have speculated that they could also allow passenger airlines to fly between London and Sydney in just two hours.

    Although this vision may be many years off, it was given a huge boost when Nasa successfully flew its X-43A plane over the Pacific Ocean in 2004. The unmanned aircraft flew at 10 times the speed of sound, a new world speed record.
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    Scramjet has been around for ages.

    One big problem with a plane such as that is noise. You can't have the airport anywhere near the city. Thus, time saved flying is negated by time used travelling to and from the airport.
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    • #3
      Why would we want to join the civilised world anyway?
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      • #4
        I thought that the whole point of developing the scramjet was the possibility that it might someday power a 'space plane'. Unfortunately Mach 7.6 is nowhere near orbital velocity. It is a step in the right direction though.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by atomant
          Why would we want to join the civilised world anyway?
          You'd lose sheep-******** and gain flavoured booze. I suppose that's a tricky choice.
          Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

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          • #6
            Yes, scramjets were invented in the 1960's so this is nothing new.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Urban Ranger
              Scramjet has been around for ages.

              One big problem with a plane such as that is noise. You can't have the airport anywhere near the city. Thus, time saved flying is negated by time used travelling to and from the airport.
              Call me dumb, but I thought (sc)ramjets only worked once you were going a fair old speed to start with. So why couldn't you just take off and land on traditional engines that don't make a load of noise? Then wack on the scramjet once you are at the relevent altitude and speed.
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              • #8
                No reason to call yourself dumb - you got the point, witch UR didn't

                Take off with a scramjet-only would take it's time since it apparently first start to work at mach 5 - I guess that you need quite a runway to reach that speed, and I guess pilots would just hate to land such a *****.
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                • #9
                  The scientists had just six seconds to monitor its performance before the £1m engine crashed into the ground.

                  Rachel Owen, a researcher from UK defence firm QinetiQ, which designed the scramjet, said it looked like everything had gone according to plan.
                  I think we have a bit to wait yet before Australia is ready to join the civilized world.
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