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    Russia Gave Iraq Intelligence: Pentagon Report
    By REUTERS

    Filed at 5:06 p.m. ET

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Russia's ambassador in Baghdad gave intelligence on U.S. military movements to Iraq's government in the opening days of the 2003 U.S.-led invasion, a Pentagon report stated on Friday, quoting from captured Iraqi documents.

    The unclassified 210-page report by the U.S. military's Joint Forces Command cited an April 2, 2003, document from the Iraqi minister of foreign affairs to President Saddam Hussein as stating the Russian ambassador to Baghdad had funneled strategic intelligence on U.S. plans to Saddam's government.

    The document was written about two weeks after the invasion but before U.S. soldiers and Marines entered the capital.

    Another Iraqi document, dated March 24, 2003, referred to Russian ``sources'' inside the U.S. military's Central Command headquarters in Qatar.

    The allegations about the actions of Russia were based on captured documents from an Iraqi government on the verge of being toppled, and the report did not present any further documentation of the allegations.

    The intelligence provided by the ambassador, the report stated, was that U.S. forces were moving to cut off Baghdad from the south, east and north, and the heaviest concentration of troops -- 12,000 of them, plus 1,000 vehicles -- was near Kerbala, 68 miles southwest of the capital.

    The ambassador also told the Iraqis that ``the Americans were going to concentrate on bombing in and around Baghdad, cutting the road to Syria and Jordan and creating 'chaos and confusion' to force the residents of Baghdad to flee,'' the report stated.

    It said the U.S. assault on Baghdad would not begin before the arrival of the Army's 4th Infantry Division -- which Turkey had barred from entering Iraq from the north via Turkish territory -- around April 15. In fact, Baghdad fell about a week before that date.

    ``Significantly, the regime was also receiving intelligence from the Russians that fed suspicions that the attack out of Kuwait was merely a diversion,'' the report stated, citing the March 24 document.

    OIL BEHIND RUSSIAN MOVES?

    The purpose of the report was to assess the Iraqi view of events from March to May 2003, based on interviews with senior Iraqi officials and numerous documents.

    Army Brig. Gen. Anthony Cucolo of U.S. Joint Forces Command told a briefing he viewed Russia's actions as ``driven by economic interests.'' The report noted Russian business interests in Iraqi oil.

    Cucolo said the intelligence from Russia ``was only a small part of Saddam's calculus on the decisions he should make and the actions he should take.''

    ``It was (Saddam) counting on other members of the international community to assist him in any way that he saw fit to get what he wanted,'' Cucolo said.

    The report said the March 24 document stated, ``The information that the Russians have collected from their sources inside the American Central Command in Doha is that the United States is convinced that occupying Iraqi cities areimpossible, and that they have changed their tactic,'' to avoid entering cities.

    The report did not contain allegations reported by The New York Times last month that German intelligence agents in Baghdad obtained a copy of Saddam's plan to defend the Iraqi capital and passed it to U.S. commanders before the invasion.

    There is a longer, classified version of the report. Officials said on Friday they could not confirm or deny whether the allegations were contained in that version.

    The report painted Saddam as convinced the United States would not launch a ground invasion that would seriously threaten his rule, believing the Americans too squeamish about casualties, and that an internal coup was a bigger threat.

    The report also dealt with the issue of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. President George W. Bush cited the threat posed by such weapons as the prime justification for the invasion. No such weapons ever were found.

    The report said that for months after the invasion, some senior officials of Saddam's government continued to think it was possible Iraq had a WMD capability hidden away.

    It stated that ``the public confidence of so many Western governments, especially based on CIA information, made at least one senior (Iraqi) official believe the contention that Iraq possessed such weapons might be true,'' citing a classified intelligence report.

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    I hope that whoever the Russian source is gets thrown into the same cell as Pollard.
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    • #3
      I can hardly wait for Serb to chime in on this.

      The Russians used electronic intellegence, not human. Anyone can do that. Besides, the info was spotty and largely ignored. Lets not make this into something that its not.
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      • #4
        So?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Urban Ranger
          So?
          My point exactly. You just used fewer letters.
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          • #6
            And we all know that United States is way above ever conducting intelligence in regards to any country -- EVER.


            What is that old saying again -- do as I say, but don't do as I do??
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            • #7
              I think it is the telling it to our enemise, not collecting it in the first place, that is an issue.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                So?
                Russia is evil!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Serb
                  Russia is evil!
                  Serb, are you feeling alright?
                  "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
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                  • #10
                    It's just a lite version of this remarkable piece of crap.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Serb
                      It's just a lite version of this remarkable piece of crap.
                      That's better.
                      "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                        So?
                        Agreed. The estimated 3,000 Chinese front companies for stealing US military and technology secrets are far more concerning. Although, they can't be doing that good of a job, if the US knows about them.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DaShi
                          The estimated 3,000 Chinese front companies for stealing US military and technology secrets are far more concerning.
                          Only to the US. Most others couldn't care less.

                          Besides, it's not like your country is squeakly clean. Pointing fingers will just be laughed at.
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                          • #14
                            So the Russians tried to help out the Iraqi government when Iraq was being illegally invaded by foreign powers?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                              Only to the US. Most others couldn't care less.
                              Many other countries also have Chinese spies.

                              Besides, it's not like your country is squeakly clean. Pointing fingers will just be laughed at.
                              You would know. In fact, there you've gone and done it that very post. Pathetically predictable.
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