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  • #76
    Originally posted by Elok


    Really? Don't you think of each other as "French" or "Finnish" or "Polish" first, and European second? And for no reason I can see. Some of your unemployment rates are ridiculous, but that might fix itself because most of you are reproducing far too slowly to maintain your current population. Our social security woes are nothing compared to yours. Whatever distinct cultures you once had are on their way out; I've met plenty of exchange students, and they remind me of Canadians. They look down their noses at American Imperialism but their ways are almost ours just the same. You're rearing our children, more or less.

    It's just that their countries, unlike ours, are slowly dying. The U.S.'s current political problems are driven by a massive social upheaval. Europeans barely have a society to upheave. You're just recirculating the same tired ideas you've had since WWII or before, and salving your pride with contempt for foreigners (hence the recent spike in xenophobia). What's come out of Europe in the past two centuries? Communism, Fascism, some decent art. Which is why I hear so much harping about the virtues of the Enlightenment, I suppose. You haven't been really inspired by anything noble since.

    Well, no, the Brits had Churchill, and also Lewis and Tolkien, only now you're mostly atheists, so, well, so much for the latter two. And you had Einstein too, before Hitler scared him and all the rest of your talent out. After that it was just the bleary half-nihilism of people like Camus, followed by a slew of pompous deconstructionists. America is beginning to catch the same rot, but it's got you down to the core. When we look for unmerited pretension and failed pride, our heads turn eastwards.
    You say you've never even visited Europe yet you come out with this drivel and claim to know what you are on about? You, buddy, are an ignoramus
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    • #77
      Don't you realise that it is exactly that condescending, moronic attitude that pisses Europeans off?
      Speaking of Erith:

      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      • #78
        WTF?
        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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        • #79
          Well I'm not pissed off, I'm just curious how does one get such a skewed picture of Europe. Please don't tell me mainstraim media in the US portrays it like that.

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          • #80
            No, we don't even pay attention to you, really. I get most of my European coverage from "The Economist." It's pretty funny, and none of my discussions with the folks here have ever failed to reinforce that impression. Much talk, little action (though I do stereotype, of course, as trolling is oh-so-fun).

            BTW, I notice that you good Europeans never hesitate to bemoan America as a benighted isle of primitives in the grip of religious zealots, propped up by militarism and jingoism and yaddayadda.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by Elok
              BTW, I notice that you good Europeans never hesitate to bemoan America as a benighted isle of primitives in the grip of religious zealots, propped up by militarism and jingoism and yaddayadda.
              Nevermind that we are...
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              • #82
                Not really. Bush is only in power by the barest bit over fifty percent of the vote, and he only got his power and kept it this long through the stunning incompetence of the Democrats.
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Elok
                  Not really. Bush is only in power by the barest bit over fifty percent of the vote,
                  Nevermind that conservatives/Republicans control most of the governorships, state legislatures, and the Supreme Court...

                  and he only got his power and kept it this long through the stunning incompetence of the Democrats.
                  ...and nevermind the mounting evidence that paperless voting machines (through poor quality-assurance or intentional fraud) likely have had a greater hand in recent elections than mainstream USAmerica cares to acknowledge.
                  The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                  The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                  • #84
                    EU will fulfill its mission if and when France leaves.
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                    • #85
                      If that was a troll, then it's the best one in eons.

                      Really? Don't you think of each other as "French" or "Finnish" or "Polish" first, and European second? And for no reason I can see.


                      Yanks vs Southeners...

                      Some of your unemployment rates are ridiculous,


                      Err, but we do include everyone without a job.

                      but that might fix itself because most of you are reproducing far too slowly to maintain your current population.


                      You make that sound as if it's a bad thing. Less people.
                      We do prefer quality over quantity, as well you know.


                      Our social security woes are nothing compared to yours.


                      Didn't even know you had one.


                      Whatever distinct cultures you once had are on their way out; I've met plenty of exchange students, and they remind me of Canadians.


                      You make that sound as if it's a bad thing. Canadians.


                      They look down their noses at American Imperialism but their ways are almost ours just the same. You're rearing our children, more or less.

                      It's just that their countries, unlike ours, are slowly dying. The U.S.'s current political problems are driven by a massive social upheaval. Europeans barely have a society to upheave. You're just recirculating the same tired ideas you've had since WWII or before, and salving your pride with contempt for foreigners (hence the recent spike in xenophobia). What's come out of Europe in the past two centuries? Communism, Fascism, some decent art. Which is why I hear so much harping about the virtues of the Enlightenment, I suppose. You haven't been really inspired by anything noble since.


                      I'm sure you will enter the renaissance era eventually too.


                      Well, no, the Brits had Churchill, and also Lewis and Tolkien, only now you're mostly atheists, so, well, so much for the latter two. And you had Einstein too, before Hitler scared him and all the rest of your talent out. After that it was just the bleary half-nihilism of people like Camus, followed by a slew of pompous deconstructionists. America is beginning to catch the same rot, but it's got you down to the core. When we look for unmerited pretension and failed pride, our heads turn eastwards.


                      Ahhhh yes, I forgot...the atheist issue.


                      Edit: Don't take this too seriously, though. I just felt a need to vent my own counter-snobbery after all the crap you Euros throw our way...



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                      • #86
                        Elok strikes me as one of those fundamentally decent Americans who can't bear to tear themselves away from maudlin victimhood fantasies regarding Europe.

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                        • #87
                          M Seillière gave warning about the dangers of the “economic nationalism” being pursued by the French Government.
                          I bet this is the real reason to explain them walking out.
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                            Well in that case, my money is on India...far more productive and educated and a comparable size in terms of population...

                            I, for one, welcome our new Indian overlords...
                            'Tis true, India — with its population projected to surpass even that of China in the next 20 to 30 years — is another potential Goliath. Hmm. Perhaps a future world will have six power blocs:

                            1. China/India
                            1. India/China
                            3. North America
                            4. European Union
                            5. Russia
                            6. Argentina

                            That, of course, leaves the Middle East and Africa on the outside looking in, unless something radical changes for the better in those areas.

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                            • #89
                              Maudlin victimization? Arru? Who are you saying I'm saying is the victim? I thought I was just claiming that your civilization and way of life were dying of old age and so on. That, and the thing about your declining population, which really does seem to be a problem in all seriousness. We're having problems supporting the Baby Boomers in the U.S., but over there it appears you just aren't having enough kids to sustain the population (at least in a lot of countries, according to all the statistics I've seen). That's not just a temporary economic problem, it means eventual extinction.
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                              • #90
                                Re: Chirac flees summit in a fury over use of English

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                                PRESIDENT CHIRAC stormed out of the first session of a European Union summit dominated by a row over French nationalism because a fellow Frenchman insisted on speaking English.

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